<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Dec 29, 2025 at 10:37 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>This one guy has blown the lid off of this story, which has been around for a long time, several years. Reporters wrote about it, but nothing happened. Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.</font></i></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>But that one guy would never have been able to do that<span class="gmail_default" style=""> if the mainstream news hadn't discovered and reported on the story long before he did. </span> </b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>but nothing happened. Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.</font></i></blockquote><div><br></div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font size="4"><b>And MrBeast has amassed over 105 billion views, but other than taking credit for what others ha<span class="gmail_default" style="">d</span> discovered, what exactly has Nick Shirley accomplished?</b></font> </font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>John K Clark</b></font></span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div><br></div><div> </div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-6811343145504178811"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-6811343145504178811WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] why do we still need mainstream news media?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 29, 2025, 9:27 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> A 23 yr old amateur found what the mainstream news media would never talk about.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> Note this video was has 121 million views in four days:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123" target="_blank">https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> So why do we still need mainstream news?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>... to measure their spin as a point of reference for other streams?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I am not sure I understand that comment, but if an amateur investigative journalist can do all this, I no longer see any useful function of the professional news people.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…Or wait, didja mean production of mainstream media?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Ja, sure did.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>… If there were no MSM, there would still be mainstream 'views' as in +/- 1 STDEV from the distribution of all views available…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">OK but… they cost a lot of money to produce. Amateurs can produce stories like that link, for almost nothing, and the viewership is thru the roof, something 60 Minutes could only dream of.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This one guy has blown the lid off of this story, which has been around for a long time, several years. Reporters wrote about it, but nothing happened. Now… one video, 120 million views in four days.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…but I guess it's still easier to track the fewer MSM programming channels…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The viewer count is still going up more than a million views per hour.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Advertisers paying for those MSM channels are seeing this and asking themselves why they are wasting money on the establishment. This was a turning point. Now… we collectively realize why TwitterX is so valuable, waaaaay more than the paltry 45 billion it sold for recently. That place is now the world’s newspapers, the world’s news television. There is no further reason to bother with mainstream media, none. The citizen reporter vision has become reality.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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