<div dir="auto">Trump has probably above average IQ ( a clinical moron can't run a real estate company for decades, even poorly) modulo recent probable mild age-related declines.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But he's the wrong guy to be looking at. He has surrounded himself with people significantly smarter than himself. Vance is not stupid. Rubio is not stupid. Hohman is not stupid. Miller is /especially/ not stupid. Hegseth might be about (merely) average (you can't have articulate opinions about US military policy - even wrong ones - if you're actually "stupid") but his immediate advisers are not.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">"Trump is stupid/mad" is brainstop - a meme specifically exploited by the Administration to prevent its opponents from being able to model - and thereby oppose it - effectively.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 15, 2026, 5:20 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 9:35 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><i><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Greenland would have some advantages if a deal can be worked out with Denmark. If US money could flow in there,</font></i></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Huh? There is already a deal! If a US company wants to invest in some project in Greenland they are perfectly free to do so, and both Denmark and Greenland would be delighted if they did. And if the US military wants to establish more military bases in Greenland they are perfectly free to do that too with no objection from NATO ally Denmark. There is absolutely no need for the US to rule Greenland! The people of Denmark don't want that and neither do the people who live in Greenland. </b></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>it would be a great place to set up data centers. </font></i></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Iceland might be a good place to set up data centers because<span class="gmail_default"> electricity is cheap thanks to geothermal power that is available there, that's why several bitcoin mining factories are already there. But Greenland would be a lousy place for a data center because unlike Iceland it has no geothermal energy so electricity is very expensive in Greenland, and there are very few high-capacity optical communication lines to that country. But if some company wants to build a data center in Greenland anyway there's nothing stopping them, they can start building one today. However nobody is doing so because they aren't crazy. I can't say the same thing about the current President of the United States.</span></b></font></div><div><br></div><div><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Spike, if Joe Biden had won the 2024 election and his Alzheimer's disease had gotten much <u>MUCH</u> worse and he started threatening military force unless loyal NATO ally Denmark gave Greenland to the US, would you still be defending such a bazaar ultimatum with vigor? I have my doubts. </b></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><b style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span> </b><i><font face="georgia, serif">I don’t know if that whole thing is an intentional distraction, like the Alcatraz business. What I heard but don’t know if it is true: a suggestion to reopen Alcatraz as a prison was an intentional distraction used to test AI: protest groups sent mail to the White House, responses were generated by AI, printed and mailed, with little or no human oversight or intervention. There was never any real intention of reopening Alcatraz as a prison. Sounds plausible I suppose. </font></i></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Good heavens! With all your years of experience with finding excuses for Mr. I Lowered Drug Prices by 1600 Percent<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">,</span> I would've thought you could do better than that. Convoluted explanations using dubious logic is not necessary, I postulate that the reason the man seems to<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> be</span> stupid is quite simple, he really is stupid.</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span><br></b></font><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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