<div dir="auto"><div>John, your talent for picking and choosing which sentences to respond to based on your ability to generate the least charitable interpretation possible is genuinely impressive. But punching through the smoke you're blowing is a tiresome game, and I approach my limit.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe is precisely the kind of post mission propping up I was speaking of, motivated on the NATO side by a desire to maintain influence and therefore keep the gravy train flowing, and on the country's side by a desire to access the incredible amounts of money that can be made available by international bureaucracies attached to NATO membership.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The Chinese influence, such as it is, is in Copenhagen, not Nuuk. But Greenland's security importance lies in it being North America's effective border with the Russian sphere of influence (Look at a polar projection map) as well as it's significant mineral and oil resources. China doesn't enter into it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I invite you to substantiate your oist interesting point: that a pivot to a spheres-of-influence international order is "stupid and crazy". Failure to fully engage on this point will be taken as concession that you are a mouthpiece for your favorite cable news network, rather than an actual player character.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As to your final question, it is barely coherent. Joe Biden is bought and paid for, and has been his entire life, by the very people made rich beyond the dreams of avarice by the post World War II international order. For him to advocate for its dissolution, against the wishes of his entire power base, would be prima fascia evidence of mental illness - even more than he has already shown. That being said, yes I would still think it was a good idea even if he was the one proposing it. It would probably get him killed though, as it already almost has with President Trump.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 15, 2026, 3:28 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 4:38 PM Darin Sunley <<a href="mailto:dsunley@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dsunley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>NATO is dead. It's been Weekend-at-Bernie's-ed since 1989,</i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4">Well for a dead guy Bernie is looking pretty damn healthy! </font></b></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></b></div><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default">In </span>1999 3 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Czech Republic<br>Hungary<br>Poland</font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2004 <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>7 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Bulgaria<br>Estonia<br>Latvia<br>Lithuania<br>Romania<br>Slovakia<br>Slovenia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2009 2 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Albania<br>Croatia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2017 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Montenegro<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2020 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>North Macedonia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2023 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Finland<br><br><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In </span>2024 1<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></font></b><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"> Sweden<span class="gmail_default"> </span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>And the following <span class="gmail_default">4</span> countries have said that they very much<span class="gmail_default"> </span>want to join NATO<span class="gmail_default"> but have not yet been accepted</span>:<span class="gmail_default"> </span></b></font><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Bosnia </b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Herzegovina, </b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Ukraine</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Georgia</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The sabre rattling with Canada, Denmark, and Venezuela fit into this framework perfectly. All of them are about ejecting Chinese influence from the Americas.</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>How on earth <span class="gmail_default">can</span> threatening to <span class="gmail_default">bomb</span> Denmark<span class="gmail_default"> so the US can plant an American flag on a big block of ice like Greenland reduce Chinese influence?! It's doing the opposite, </span> <span class="gmail_default">i</span>f I was Danish I'd start thinking seriously about cozying up with the Chinese<span class="gmail_default"> to protect me from the US bully. </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default">> </span>Reasonable people can disagree with this plan,</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Sa<span class="gmail_default">n</span>e people <span class="gmail_default"><u>MUST</u> </span>disagree with this plan.<span class="gmail_default"> </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><font face="georgia, serif"><i>it is neither stupid nor crazy </i></font></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>It is both<span class="gmail_default">. And Darin, I asked Spike this and now I'm going to ask you, if Joe Biden was still president </span><span class="gmail_default">and he said he was thinking about bombing Denmark in order to get Greenland, would you still be saying the idea was neither stupid nor crazy? </span> </b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Without exception<span class="gmail_default"> e</span>very member of<span class="gmail_default"> Mr. I Lowered Drug Prices By 1600 Percent's</span> administration <u>publicly</u> says<span class="gmail_default"> that his idea of threatening NATO member Denmark with military force is a good one. There are only 3 possible explanations for that strange phenomenon, at least one of the following must be true: </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>1) Every member of the administration is as crazy as the President of the United States . </b></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">2) </span>Every member of the administration is as <span class="gmail_default">stupid</span> as<span class="gmail_default"></span> the President of the United States. </b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>3) Every member of the administration is lying about their opinion of the mental state of the current President of the United States because they value personal power more than truth or the Constitution. </b></font></div></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>John K Clark</b></font></div></div></div>
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