<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Thu, Jan 15, 2026 at 6:00 PM Darin Sunley <<a href="mailto:dsunley@gmail.com">dsunley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The expansion of NATO into Eastern Europe is precisely the kind of post mission propping up I was speaking of,</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>The fact that you <span class="gmail_default" style="">now </span>use the word<span class="gmail_default" style=""> "expansion" contradicts your previous "weekend at Bernie's" comment regarding NATO. </span> </b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>motivated on the NATO side by a desire to maintain influence and therefore keep the gravy train flowing,</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>NATO expanded because the countries in Eastern Europe were as frightened of their neighbor Russia under the leadership of Mr. Ukraine Started The War's best friend Vladimir Putin as they were of the old Soviet Union.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> And they had good reason to be frightened. </span></b></font><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The Chinese influence, such as it is, is in Copenhagen, not Nuuk. But Greenland's security importance lies in it being North America's effective border with the Russian sphere of influence</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>The US already has a military<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>agreement<span class="gmail_default" style=""> with Denmark that allows them to build military bases anywhere in Greenland that they want, for the last several decades the US has decided that it only needed one base, but they are free to build more if they want to. The US does not need to rule the people of Greenland, Denmark doesn't want it, the Prime Minister of Greenland doesn't want it, and polls have shown that the people of Greenland most certainly do NOT want it. And who could blame them, who in their right mind would want Mr. I Lowered Drug Prices By 1600 Percent as their Supreme Leader?</span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I invite you to substantiate your oist interesting point: that a pivot to a spheres-of-influence international order is "stupid and crazy".<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span>Failure to fully engage on this point will be taken as concession that you are a mouthpiece for your favorite cable news network,</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Holy cow!<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Do I really need to hold you by the hand<span class="gmail_default" style=""> so you can understand why going to war with a peaceful NATO ally like Denmark is not a particularly good idea?! </span> </b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default">>> if Joe Biden was still president </span><span class="gmail_default">and he said he was thinking about bombing Denmark in order to get Greenland, would you still be saying the idea was neither stupid nor crazy? </span> </b></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>As to your final question, it is barely coherent. Joe Biden is bought and paid for, and has been his entire life, by the very people made rich beyond the dreams of avarice by the post World War II international order. For him to advocate for its dissolution, against the wishes of his entire power base, would be prima fascia evidence of mental illness - even more than he has already shown. That being said, yes I would still think it was a good idea even if he was the one proposing it. It would probably get him killed though, as it already almost has with President Trump.</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I wonder if there are any more <span class="gmail_default" style="">small </span>peaceful<span class="gmail_default" style=""> prosperous </span>countries<span class="gmail_default" style=""> besides Denmark</span> that you think we should declare war <span class="gmail_default" style="">on</span><span class="gmail_default" style="">;</span><span class="gmail_default" style=""> but</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">this</span> train of yours<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>seems to be heading straight for Crazy Town<span class="gmail_default" style=""> so I think it's time for me to jump off. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""> John K Clark</span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>NATO is dead. It's been Weekend-at-Bernie's-ed since 1989,</i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4">Well for a dead guy Bernie is looking pretty damn healthy! </font></b></div><div><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></b></div><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default">In </span>1999 3 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Czech Republic<br>Hungary<br>Poland</font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2004 <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>7 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Bulgaria<br>Estonia<br>Latvia<br>Lithuania<br>Romania<br>Slovakia<br>Slovenia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2009 2 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>countries<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Albania<br>Croatia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2017 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Montenegro<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2020 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>North Macedonia<br><br><span class="gmail_default">In </span>2023 1 <span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span><br>Finland<br><br><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In </span>2024 1<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></font></b><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default">new </span>country<span class="gmail_default"> joined NATO</span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"> Sweden<span class="gmail_default"> </span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>And the following <span class="gmail_default">4</span> countries have said that they very much<span class="gmail_default"> </span>want to join NATO<span class="gmail_default"> but have not yet been accepted</span>:<span class="gmail_default"> </span></b></font><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Bosnia </b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Herzegovina, </b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Ukraine</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Georgia</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The sabre rattling with Canada, Denmark, and Venezuela fit into this framework perfectly. All of them are about ejecting Chinese influence from the Americas.</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>How on earth <span class="gmail_default">can</span> threatening to <span class="gmail_default">bomb</span> Denmark<span class="gmail_default"> so the US can plant an American flag on a big block of ice like Greenland reduce Chinese influence?! It's doing the opposite, </span> <span class="gmail_default">i</span>f I was Danish I'd start thinking seriously about cozying up with the Chinese<span class="gmail_default"> to protect me from the US bully. </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default">> </span>Reasonable people can disagree with this plan,</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Sa<span class="gmail_default">n</span>e people <span class="gmail_default"><u>MUST</u> </span>disagree with this plan.<span class="gmail_default"> </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><font face="georgia, serif"><i>it is neither stupid nor crazy </i></font></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>It is both<span class="gmail_default">. And Darin, I asked Spike this and now I'm going to ask you, if Joe Biden was still president </span><span class="gmail_default">and he said he was thinking about bombing Denmark in order to get Greenland, would you still be saying the idea was neither stupid nor crazy? </span> </b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span><br></b></font></div><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Without exception<span class="gmail_default"> e</span>very member of<span class="gmail_default"> Mr. I Lowered Drug Prices By 1600 Percent's</span> administration <u>publicly</u> says<span class="gmail_default"> that his idea of threatening NATO member Denmark with military force is a good one. There are only 3 possible explanations for that strange phenomenon, at least one of the following must be true: </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>1) Every member of the administration is as crazy as the President of the United States . </b></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">2) </span>Every member of the administration is as <span class="gmail_default">stupid</span> as<span class="gmail_default"></span> the President of the United States. </b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>3) Every member of the administration is lying about their opinion of the mental state of the current President of the United States because they value personal power more than truth or the Constitution. </b></font></div></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>John K Clark</b></font></div></div></div>
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