<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 8:15 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>>>> </span>You can't go faster than the speed of light, so if you want your microchip to process a bit of information faster <span class="gmail_default">then </span>you're going to need to make the parts of the chip closer together. And you're going to need to make the wavelength of the light that you use for communication between the parts of the chip<span class="gmail_default"> </span>smaller. And the smaller the wavelength <span class="gmail_default">that</span> light <span class="gmail_default">is </span>the more energy it has. And E=MC^2. <span class="gmail_default">If you keep trying to make the chip go faster then e</span>ventually the distance becomes so small and the energy becomes so large that a <span class="gmail_default">B</span>lack <span class="gmail_default">H</span>ole forms. </b></font></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><i><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>>> </span>A black hole represents the fastest *serial* computer for a given number of bits. But note that operations per second of non-serial (parallel operations) is independent of the computer's density. You can have 10^51 ops/s whether that 1 kg of computer is 1 cubic meter, or a microscopic black hole.</font></i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default">>> In a parallel computer there can be an unlimited number of NAND and NOR </span><span class="gmail_default">gates that can perform their operations simultaneously, but you don't have a parallel computer, or a computer of any sort, unless the output of those </span>NAND and NOR <span class="gmail_default">gates can communicate with each other. So if you want your machine to run faster then you're going to have to place those gates closer together, and you're going to need to decrease the wavelength of light that you use for communication,  and the shorter the wavelength the more energy it has, so if you keep going eventually you're going to produce a Black Hole.</span></b></font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Think of it like a bunch of independent data centers spread across the globe that don't need to communicate with one another.</i></font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Then they can't be working on the same problem simultaneously.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> And if they're spread over a large area then you can't be talking with them simultaneously. </span> And they<span class="gmail_default" style=""> can't be talking with you simultaneously. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"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