<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 2:43 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 2:34 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 2:25 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > From what limited context you have provided, this particular facet<br>
>> seems highly unlikely to kill us or make us billionaires within 5 years.<br>
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> I bet you about that except that if I win I'll either be dead so I can't collect my winnings or i'll be so rich I won't need your chump change.<br>
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i>And if I won, I wouldn't expect that you'd honor the bet. </i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>No, I would honor my bet<span class="gmail_default" style="">, I've lost bets before and I've always paid up</span>. The criteria is clear cut, <span class="gmail_default" style="">i</span>f you won that would mean in 5 years you would still be alive but you would not be a billionaire or the equivalent; that is to say there would still be many material things that exist and that you would like to have but that you cannot because they are too expensive. I would pay up unless I physically could not because I am dead<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">;</span> unless<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Mr. Jupiter Brain liked you more than he liked me so He <span class="gmail_default" style="">let you live but </span>made sure I assumed room temperature.</b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div><b style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark See what's on my new list at </font><font size="6"><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis" rel="nofollow noreferrer" target="_blank">Extropolis</a></font></font></b></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You'd point<br>
to this or that advance in AI and ignore the fact that if I won, then<br>
as of February 2nd 2031, both of us would be alive (to the extent that<br>
could be proven) and neither of us would have a net worth of at least<br>
US$1,000,000,000 as assessed by [insert whatever mutually agreeable<br>
wealth measurement organization] including all assets with an<br>
identifiable dollar value (so excluding anything we can't simply<br>
sell).<br>
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