<div dir="auto">Ja I am seeing evidence of that. Even smart people with engineering and science degrees don't understand AI.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yesterday I met on board a retired dean of the school of engineering at Berkeley (go Bears). He has been retired 14 yrs. He demonstrated zero understanding of the topic. We don't know where AI is going. Kurzweil doesn't know, Eliezer doesn't. I sure don't. Good luck to us. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">spike</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 8, 2026, 4:30 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Feb 8, 2026 at 9:05 AM Gregory Jones via extropy-chat<br>
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> We extreme moderates will be undecided still. What is a middle wind extremist to do? spike<br>
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None of this makes any difference, as BillK said<br>
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"The challenge is that legislation moves on multi-year timescales<br>
while AI capabilities shift in months."<br>
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The other problem is that nobody understands where AI is going, not<br>
the general population, not even the AI experts.<br>
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Keith<br>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2026, 7:00 AM Gregory Jones <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Our current POTUS can brutally force his many detractors into either position by taking a stand. It might be fun to predict which he will take. I am guessing a pro AI position. spike<br>
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>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2026, 5:43 AM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>> Has anyone seen any evidence that the right/left or Republican/Democrat political devide tends to lean towards one way or the other as far as AI is going to kill us vs AI is going to save us? It'd be entertaining if all the Youdokowski followers went way right and all the Kurzweil followers went way left.<br>
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>>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2026 at 7:09 PM Gregory Jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> ...but it soon will be.<br>
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>>>> I am out at sea with very little bandwidth, so I talk and listen to other passengers, to see what they know about AI. Some refer me to the former VPOTUS who explained that it is a fancy thing and is two letters.<br>
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>>>> It occurred to me that AI isn't really politicized, yet. But we can see how quickly things are moving. We in this forum recognize that AI might solve all our problems or kill us. As that realization overtakes the general population, they will look to political leaders to tell them if it is a good thing or a bad thing. Subtlety and nuance go out the window. Science out, politics in, reality pushed aside, truth unavailable.<br>
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>>>> It hasn't happened yet. But it will.<br>
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>>>> spike<br>
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