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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelly Anderson via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] ai in education<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>The math seems to indicate that Universities will soon be obsolete. Perhaps before the rest of us are because of the long payoff periods involved. Someone smart enough to think about going to a university should be smart enough to figure out the payback period, and student loans don't pay themselves. If you're going just for beer and sex, there are cheaper ways to get there. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Kelly<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From what I hear, sex is waaaaaay way down from what it was back in the olden days (1970s and 1980s.) The students have a new risk that didn’t exist back in those days: their partner could post damaging stuff to Facebook and TwitterX if things didn’t turn out the way either partner hoped, which is very common with dorm room sex. Another surprise: beer is way down too. From what I hear, nearly half the students don’t drink at all. It’s ahocking lack of interest in advanced Hedonics, I tells ya.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regarding universities becoming obsolete: I agree. We already have good examples of people who get a specific vision of where they want to go, and can drill deeper, faster on their own compared to a university setting. Note Eliezer eschewed the academic path all together. As far as I know, he never took a college class, never set foot on a university campus.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Kelly (welcome back (I haven’t seen a post from you in a while)) it was an eye-opener for me to watch how my own Science Olympiad team used ChatGPT at a training tool when it first showed up in late 2022.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>