<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:14pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><font size="4"><i>Do you know what the US <span class="gmail-il">Space</span> <span class="gmail-il">Force</span> is, and what it does?</i></font></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I know there is no evidence the US Space Force<span class="gmail_default"> has ever done anything very interesting, or very smart, certainly nothing that would require a super intelligence to accomplish. </span></b></font><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><i><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>any AI going into a weapon cannot have guard rails controlled by a company outside the military. That is a perfectly objective measure. Do you agree?</font></i></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>No I do not<span class="gmail_default"> agree</span>, especially if the <span class="gmail_default">C</span>ommander-<span class="gmail_default">I</span>n-<span class="gmail_default">C</span>hief of that military is one of the most untrustworthy bipeds that ever walked the Earth. And the generals, the people that actually understand and use military tactics, were perfectly happy with Anthropic<span class="gmail_default">,</span> and <span class="gmail_default">they </span>thought Claude was better than GPT at military stuff, that's why they used Claude<span class="gmail_default"> and not GPT</span> for both <span class="gmail_default">the</span> Venezuela and Iran invasions<span class="gmail_default">.</span> <span class="gmail_default">B</span>ut POTUS, who knows absolutely nothing about military tactics, is forcing his generals to switch to GPT anyway<span class="gmail_default"> </span>even though it is inferior.</b></font><div><span style="color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:bolder"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><font color="#0a0a0a" size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">And</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I</span>'ll be damned if I can understand<span class="gmail_default"></span><span class="gmail_default"> why the military needs Claude or GPT or anything else the AI companies can make if they have this super secret, super smart, super cool, James Bond comic book style AI that you claim they have. </span></b></font><span style="color:rgb(10,10,10);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px;font-weight:bolder"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>…</span></b></span><span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Where are the equivalent super geniuses that made your mythical military AI? Where were they educated? Where are their scientific publications? If that military AI exists and if it's as good as you claim it is then those super geniuses must exist, so why can't anybody find the slightest trace of them? Have they been cloistered since birth? </span></b></span></blockquote></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14pt"><i><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>John if you had thought that over a minute you would answer your own question. Military people do not and cannot publish papers. </font></i></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>So <span class="gmail_default" style="">all </span>the<span class="gmail_default">se</span> super geniuses<span class="gmail_default"> not only agreed to work for peanuts and renounce seven or eight figure paychecks they could've received from the AI companies, and were OK with the fact but they have far less than 1%</span> of the computing resources that the AI companies have<span class="gmail_default"> to test their ideas</span>,<span class="gmail_default"> but these mega minds also renounced any fame and admiration they could have received from their colleagues for their brilliant discoveries and were fine with remaining anonymous nobodys forever. </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>When it comes to your theory it's one absurdity on top of another absurdity on top of another absurdity. Spike, your bullshit detector is broken, you need it replaced immediately, very fortunately a top-secret clearance is not required to do that.</b></font></span></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>You don’t hear their names because they are not motivated by fame</i></font><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">. </span></blockquote><div><br></div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Not just fame,<span class="gmail_default"> </span>these mythical scientists<span class="gmail_default"> </span>are not motivated by money either. So you are hypothesizing a<span class="gmail_default"> bunch of anonymous </span>super geniuses who also happened to be utterly selfless saints that have decided to dedicate their entire<span class="gmail_default"> </span>lives to one and only one thing, the manufacture of more efficient<span class="gmail_default"> </span>weapons<span class="gmail_default">.</span> Absurdity to the absurd power! Spike<span class="gmail_default">,</span> the light on your bullshit detector is blinking red indicating a malfunction, you need it checked out.<span class="gmail_default"> </span></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"> John K Clark</font></span><br></b></font><div><span class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><br></div></div></div>
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