<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 10:38 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> [</span><font face="Arial, sans-serif">BillK</font><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">] </font><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">I</font></i></span></span><i><font face="georgia, serif"><span style="color:black"> had</span><span style="color:black"> correct Gemini three times for errors that it made in the analysis of the article about the fruit fly upload.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span></span><span style="color:black">So I asked Gemini to look at what went wrong.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span></span></font></i></font><span style="color:black"><font size="4" style=""><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">Gemini said, "Wasn't my fault, honest! It was my training!" </font></i><font face="Arial, sans-serif">:</font></font><font face="Arial, sans-serif">)</font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Very human response.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> "<i>It's not my fault that I chopped up those people with an ax, I had a bad childhood, and my genes suck</i>". </span> </b></font></div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1032836323746928939"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1032836323746928939WordSection1"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" style="" face="georgia, serif"><i style=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-weight:bold;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>This makes AI (all of them) as unreliable as humans:</i></font></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Alan Turing said:<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span> </b></font></div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>“<i>If a machine is expected to be infallible<span class="gmail_default" style=""> then </span>it cannot also be intelligent</i><span class="gmail_default" style=""><i></i>"</span></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>I think Turing was right<span class="gmail_default" style="">.</span><span class="gmail_default" style=""> I also think it's impossible to be intelligent without having emotions, so it's not surprising that Claude is showing signs of anxiety. Perhaps this creates a new profession, AI psychiatry, a human that has an AI as a patient. </span></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span><br></b></font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1032836323746928939"><br><br>
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