<div dir="auto"><div>Oh Keith,</div><div dir="auto">How come science fiction is always pessimistic? </div><div dir="auto">Could you write an optimistic scenario of this thread? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Smile, ilsa</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#ff0000">Ilsa Bartlett</font></font><div><font color="#ffffff"><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#3333ff">Institute for Rewiring the System</font></font></font><br><a href="http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com</a><br></div><div><a href="http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett</a><br><a href="http://www.hotlux.com/angel.htm" target="_blank">www.hotlux.com/angel</a><br><br>"Don't ever get so big or case, important that you can not hear and listen to every other person."<br>-John Coltrane</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 13, 2026, 4:22 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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>...AI doesn't know any of us. I suppose we could rely upon it to render a judgement on whether or not I am personally attacking John (or anyone else.) BillK is the one among us who appears to be the most skilled in the use of AI. I do invite him (or anyone else) to feed the entire exchange into AI, see if it "thinks" I am attacking anyone. BillK? Anyone? spike<br>
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Adrian, we have been discussing this for years, dacades: the use of AI as a judge. This is cool: we get a chance to test it where the stakes are low. Understatement, the stakes are zero. There is no money to change hands, nothing but a disagreement among friends. I consider everyone who posts on ExI a friend, even if we disagree on some matters. <br>
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It is night in the UK where BillK lives, but he will see this in the morning and likely have a result for us soon. In the meantime, I do wish to make it clear that my intention is not to attack John. I disagree with him on his use of the term militia, or suggesting there is anything the least bit neo-Nazi about it. A neo-Nazi group dressing up in camo and doing military exercises should be referred to as " a neo-Nazi group dressing up in camo and doing military exercises." That is clumsy of course. So we could call them "neo-Nazis."<br>
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If we do, consider that they are a marching self-contradiction. The first thing the original Nazis did is disarm the German citizenry. This resulted in their facing little armed resistance as they rounded up their own citizens for a horrifying genocide, mass murder. Our neo-Nazis are armed themselves, and have a right to do that, because of our constitution.<br>
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Let's see what AI makes of our discussion. It would be even more interesting to compare the various AIs: Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, and any others in common use.<br>
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