<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 2:25 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="georgia, serif" size="4">
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I simply don't know if chemical preservation would be better or not.<br></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Electron microscopic photographs of brains that used glutaraldehyde fixation and then<span class="gmail_default" style=""> cooled to liquid nitrogen temperatures for </span>cryogenic storage displayed far more detail than brains infused with Alcor's current cryoprotectant<span class="gmail_default" style=""> and then frozen. </span></b></font><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><i>
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>It probably would if brains could not be kept in LN2,</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>I don't think there's any <span class="gmail_default" style="">"</span>probably<span class="gmail_default" style="">" about it. Ideally you'd want both chemical fixation and liquid nitrogen temperatures, but with chemical fixation if due to some malfunction the brain warmed up it might not be the total catastrophe it would be as it would be with current methods. </span>I wrote to Eric Drexler some years ago<span class="gmail_default" style=""> about this and he agreed with me, I wasn't surprised because he mentioned something very much like it in his book "Engines Of Creation". </span></b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>We know that cryoprotected tissue can be revived from LN2, the same is<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>not true for chemical fixation.</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Yes but that's <span class="gmail_default" style="">not </span>important.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> If I am ever revived I think there is zero probability I will have a chemical brain like I do now. </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>making LN2 the conservative approach.Whether that carries over to brain information is likely but not<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>certain.<br></i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Nothing about this is certain<span class="gmail_default" style=""> but we can play the odds, so I'd put my money on the procedure that produces the clearest electron microscopic pictures of brain slices, or I would if Alcor would just offer it. </span> </b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>My thoughts on getting to the upload era are like Woody Allan's. If<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>that does not work, Alcor is the best you can do.</i></font><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div> <font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Speaking of<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Woody Alle<span class="gmail_default" style="">n </span>, I wrote the following back in 2018, I think it's still valid<span class="gmail_default" style="">:</span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default"><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">"Woody Allen said "<i style="">I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen; I want to live on in my apartment</i>”, well maybe there is a way. Yesterday the Large Mammal Brain Preservation Prize was awarded to 21st Century Medicine and lead company researcher Robert McIntyre. They used both glutaraldehyde fixation and cryogenic storage, and proved that a pig's brain connectome, that is the 150 trillion synaptic connections that are thought to encode memory and the whole mind, is preserved. </b></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>And because it is stored at liquid nitrogen temperatures it could be preserved for centuries. 3D pictures were made by an electron microscope after the brain was rewarmed and they showed amazing preservation, and there is no reason to think molecular-level information wouldn't be preserved too. It's even more impressive when you consider that the pictures were made after rewarming because most of the damage happens at that stage, I would have been delighted even if the pictures were made while the brain was still frozen, but this is even better. Kenneth Hayworth a PhD in Neuroscience said:</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">"<i>Let that sink in… Aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation, if properly applied TODAY, could preserve the information content of a human brain for indefinitely-long storage</i>."</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>At this point there is little doubt, Aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation works and it does a much better job than the method Alcor currently uses. And at this point no new science is required, we just need improved technical procedures to make it practical to use in a hospital setting and the will to do so.</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">There is more about this here:</b></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></b></div></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font size="4"><a href="https://turingchurch.net/cryonics-for-uploaders-the-brain-preservation-prize-has-been-won-cebbe98c241a" target="_blank" style=""><b style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">https://turingchurch.net/cryonics-for-uploaders-the-brain-preservation-prize-has-been-won-cebbe98c241a</font></b></a>. "<br></font></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">John K Clark</b></font></div><div class="gmail-yj6qo"></div><div class="gmail_default gmail-adL" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default gmail-adL" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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