<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 1:16 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>> </span>Forget 1/3 c, if just one ET had been able to send just one <span class="gmail_default" style="">V</span>on Neumann probe at 1/30 c then almost instantly (cosmically speaking)<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>it would be very obvious to anybody<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>that the Milky Way had been engineered,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> but</span> instead we see a <span class="gmail_default" style="">huge</span> astronomical number of energy rich photons from hundreds of billions of stars<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span><span class="gmail_default"></span>radiating uselessly into empty space; and the Milky Way is not unique,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>even our largest telescopes can find no <span class="gmail_default" style="">sign</span> that any other galaxy has been engineered<span class="gmail_default" style=""> either</span>. That's why I think the evidence is overwhelming that<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>we are the only intelligent beings in the observable universe. <span class="gmail_default" style="">[...] I</span></b><b style=""> don't think the dimming of<span class="gmail_default"> </span>Tabby's Star<span class="gmail_default">,</span><span class="gmail_default"> or that of any other similar star, has anything to do with ET. </span></b> </font></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>You may be right. The odds are astronomical against there being a<br>
technological civilization spreading out when and where we can see it.<br>
But it is not aliens; we need to figure out what is causing light dips<br>
in a cluster of stars a thousand light-years in diameter. Got any<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>ideas? </i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>As I've mentioned before,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> f</span>or several years<span class="gmail_default" style=""> now the scientific community has reached an overwhelming consensus that the dimming is caused by dust and a few larger fragments. </span></b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>All of those proposed have physical or logical problems. For<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>example, dust clouds. A dust cloud would be blown out ot the system<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>by light pressure like a comet tail,</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Light pressure c<span class="gmail_default" style="">an</span> blow away<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span> a comet's tail<span class="gmail_default" style=""> because that tail cloud is so tenuous it would be considered one of the best vacuums ever produced if it had been made in a physics laboratory on earth; the scientific community is talking about a dust cloud that is many thousands of times denser than anything a comet can produce and is far too massive to be dissipated by light pressure. </span></b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>and the chances of us seeing such<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>a transitory event are very low for one star,</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Astronomers have photographic plates of tabby's star going back to the late 1800s indicating that the star is about 14% <span class="gmail_default" style="">dimmer</span> now than it was then, how much before that <span class="gmail_default" style="">the star</span> started to act strangely is unknown<span class="gmail_default" style="">,</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">b</span>ut we do know that today we observe that the dimming is greater in the optical range than the infrared range<span class="gmail_default" style="">.</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">E</span>xactly what you would expect of a dust cloud. And we also observed that on top of the gradual dimming we also see, at irregular intervals, much greater decreases in brightness that are of very short duration and occur at irregular intervals<span class="gmail_default" style="">.</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">E</span>xactly what you would expect for a star that was inside a dense dust cloud that contained large solid fragments<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span><span class="gmail_default" style="">in </span><span class="gmail_default">chaotic orbits</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">.</span></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4"><i><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>not to consider a couple<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>of dozen.</font></i><br></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Stars in<span class="gmail_default" style=""> very d</span>ense dust clouds <span class="gmail_default" style="">are not rare,</span><span class="gmail_default" style=""> they have been observed many millions of times, and even more often since we've been able to deploy good infrared telescopes because infrared light can make its way through more dust than optical light can. The only thing unusual about tabby's star </span>is that its dust cloud is more lumpy than most<span class="gmail_default" style="">, but that's what you would expect if a few thousand years ago a small planet got too close to the star and was torn apart by tidal forces into dust and solid fragments with chaotic orbits. </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></b></font><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Ten years ago it might've been higher but today if I was making a list of cosmic mysteries I would place tabby's star very low on that list. </b></font><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div><br></div></div></div>