<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Mar 29, 2026 at 11:16 AM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>In similar neutrino detections of energetic events, such a supernova, all the neutrino detectors on earth lit up at the same time. Would we not expect something similar if a nearby black hole evaporated?</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>The short answer is somebody got lucky. The slightly longer answer is that the neutrino the Mediterranean detector found had an energy of 2.2 *10^17 electron volts, that's more than 30 times as powerful as any neutrino the south pole detector had ever found even after 14 years of operation, and the source of that neutrino was in the northern hemisphere<span class="gmail_default" style="">;</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">a</span>nd normally the south pole detector is most sensitive to neutrinos that originate in the northern hemisphere because neutrinos are the only thing they c<span class="gmail_default" style="">an</span> make it all the way through the Earth so the northern hemisphere signal is <span class="gmail_default" style=""></span>v<span class="gmail_default" style="">ery l</span>ow noise. However that's for normal neutrinos, but this one was far from normal. The more energetic a neutrino is the larger its cross-section is and thus the easier it is for matter to stop; the likelihood of a neutrino as colossally energetic as 2.2 *10^17 electron volts making it all the way through the Earth without being absorbed is virtually zero.</b></font><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>By a lucky chance<span class="gmail_default" style=""> t</span>he Mediterranean detector happens to be much more sensitive to neutrinos coming in<span class="gmail_default" style=""> in a horizontal direction then the south pole detector is, although when they were designing it I don't imagine the engineers thought that was an important feature. But it turned out to be very important because </span><span class="gmail_default" style="">t</span>he record shattering neutrino<span class="gmail_default" style=""> came in at an angle only 0.6 degrees above the horizon, so the neutrino only needed to go through 91 miles of air and sea water, and not </span>8000 miles of rock.</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style=""><b style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">John K Clark</font></b></span><br></font></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 29, 2026, 7:14 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for free without a subscription.<br><br>Did Scientists Just Detect an Exploding Black Hole?<br><br>An underwater observatory recently detected a startlingly energetic cosmic neutrino. One possible cause involves a phenomenon that so far exists only in theory.<br><br><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/science/astrophysics-neutrinos-black-holes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.W1A.qWMP.6I2De03QUY8j&smid=em-share" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/science/astrophysics-neutrinos-black-holes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.W1A.qWMP.6I2De03QUY8j&smid=em-share</a></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>
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