<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sat, Mar 28, 2026 at 6:54 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i>
>>> If there are aliens, it seems to me that they could have constructed a much larger data center in their home star system and not bothered to spread out.</i></font></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>
><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span> That doesn't explain why one ET hasn't sent out one Von Neumann probe.</b></font></blockquote>
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Nope.  On the other hand, perhaps they think of themselves as Von<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Neuman probes.  The evidence can be read that they are spreading at<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>1/3rd of c.</i></font><br></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Forget 1/3 c, if just one ET had been able to send just one <span class="gmail_default" style="">V</span>on Neumann probe at 1/30 c then almost instantly (cosmically speaking)<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>it would be very obvious to anybody<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>that the Milky Way had been engineered,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> but</span> instead we see a <span class="gmail_default" style="">huge</span> astronomical number of energy rich photons from hundreds of billions of stars<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span>radiating uselessly into empty space; and the Milky Way is not unique,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>even our largest telescopes can find no <span class="gmail_default" style="">sign</span> that any other galaxy has been engineered<span class="gmail_default" style=""> either</span>. That's why I think the evidence is overwhelming that<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>we are the only intelligent beings in the observable universe.  </b><br></font>
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>><span class="gmail_default" style="">></span>  Communications between them [different uploaded civilizations or individuals around a star] would be (from their viewpoint) painfully slow.</i></font></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>
><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>></span> But also extremely information rich. The communication channel would have lots of latency but also contain lots of data, far far more than anything in biology.</b></font></blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>True.  Only we don't see lasers, and the SETI people have not seen<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>anything in the radio spectrum. </i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>And th<span class="gmail_default" style="">at</span> is yet another reason why I don't think the dimming of<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>Tabby's Star<span class="gmail_default" style="">,</span><span class="gmail_default" style=""> or that of any other similar star, has anything to do with ET. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""> John K Clark</span></b></font></div></div></div>