<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 8:21 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I find the whole question of real consciousness or simulated<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>consciousness to be bootless.</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Me too.</b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="">> </span>How can I know if any of you are really<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>conscious or just simulating consciousness?</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>You can't.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span> </b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Does it make the least bif<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>ot difference?</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>Nope.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> I know for a fact that your behavior is intelligent therefore, although I can't prove it, I very strongly suspect you are also conscious; but if you are not that's your problem not mine. </span> </b></font></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="4"><b>John K Clark</b></font></div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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