<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 5:41 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1397695923315675359"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1397695923315675359WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>The Navy says<span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"> </span></span></b><span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">a</span></b></span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Trump class battleship will displace between<span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"> </span>35,000 and <span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault">41,000 tons…<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">…The Navy says a Trump class battleship will cost between $17.4 billion and $22 billion<span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault">…</span></span></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1397695923315675359"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1397695923315675359WordSection1"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Do you presume they are going to tell you they are really doing?</i></span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>They had better because the Navy has to convince Congress to authorize the money needed to build<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>the damn stupid thing<span class="gmail_default" style="">. And unfortunately they probably will authorize it for one and only one reason, it has the word "Trump" in its name</span><span class="gmail_default" style="">. </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1397695923315675359"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1397695923315675359WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4" style=""><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">> </font></i></span><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif">We don’t even know if a missile was involved in the Apache crash. </font></i></font></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>We know a missile was <span class="gmail_default" style="">NOT</span> involved<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span><span class="gmail_default" style=""> The Apache was brought down by a slow, cheap </span>Iranian Shahed-136<span class="gmail_default" style=""> intelligent <u>DRONE</u> that cost about $20,000. </span></b></font></div><div><br></div>  <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1397695923315675359"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1397695923315675359WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">>…Why in the hell would <span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault">the</span> US military want to <span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"><u>ENHANCE</u></span> <span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault">the </span>radar cross-section<span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"> of its warships or planes</span>?!</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <br></span></blockquote> </div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_1397695923315675359gmaildefault"><i style=""><font size="4" style="" face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>They enhance radar cross section to draw fire John. </font></i><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:13.5pt"> </span></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div><font size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="">But</span> a battleship is <span class="gmail_default" style="">NOT</span> a decoy, it is a prime, huge<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ly</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>expensive<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>target!<span class="gmail_default" style="">! Spike, your defense of the status quo is just getting silly. </span> </font></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font size="4"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"> John K Clark</font></span><br></b></font></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg1397695923315675359"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_1397695923315675359WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] robo-rescue</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">>…It's interesting that a drone boat was able to rescue the crew of a helicopter, but I think it's even more interesting that a $20,000 Iranian drone was able to knock a AH-64 Apache attack helicopter out of the air which cost between 52 and 100 million dollars depending on how many bells and whistles it had. This should make anybody think twice before they decide to build a huge "Trump class" battleship. </span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">John K Clark</span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>