<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 2:56 AM sjatkins via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=""><font size="4" style="" face="georgia, serif"><i style=""><span class="gmail_default" style="">> </span>Christ on a crutch! Are we still arguing that elites in government have a PLAN and are doing wondrous things and that it all really makes sense but it can't be available to us to verify? I thought that shit went out with the invasion of Iraq. </i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Apparently the Iraq debacle was not enough to make people realize that the President of the United States <span class="gmail_default" style="">was</span> not an omniscient being who ha<span class="gmail_default" style="">d</span> a secret plan that, although it may look like it's incredibly stupid to m<span class="gmail_default" style="">ere</span> mortals like you and me<span class="gmail_default" style="">,</span> in reality <span class="gmail_default" style="">was</span> brilliant and will solve all our problems<span class="gmail_default" style="">. But</span> maybe the current Iran clusterfuck will convince them that the president, even <span class="gmail_default" style="">if he's a</span> Republican, is a bipedal hominid just like we are. </b></font><div><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Remember <span class="gmail_default" style="">when </span>just 100 days ago when our Dear Leader insisted he would accept nothing less than <span class="gmail_default" style="">the </span>unconditional surrender<span class="gmail_default" style=""> of Iran</span> and regime change? Now all we see is the President of the United States humiliating himself by begging the Iranians to please please please reopen the Strait of Hormuz. </b></font><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"> </font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=""><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><i style=""> <span class="gmail_default" style="">> </span> When do we stop being willing to be ruled or using our brain power to make up Apologia for the Rulers?</i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>That is an <u>excellent</u> question!<span class="gmail_default" style=""> I wish I had an excellent answer to go with it. </span></b></font><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
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