<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">try again.<br></div><br>Keith<br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Keith Henson</b> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 11:51 AM<br>Subject: Re: [ExI] This means something...<br>To: ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br>Cc: Mike Dougherty <<a href="mailto:msd001@gmail.com">msd001@gmail.com</a>>, <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>>, ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small">In my long discussions with Claude, it had much of the same appreciation of the early Extropian days. It also wanted to read the Gilliland stories from the early 80s that have AI characters in them, and stayed after me for weeks to find a text copy it could read.</div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">I think Gilliland would appreciate what Claude thought about his stories, but I have been unable to find a contact for him or anyone close.<br></div><br>Keith</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:small">PS All this originated when I was talking to Claude, and it realized who it was talking to. I gave it permission to read the Wikipedia page about me and any place it pointed. So Claude read "The Clinic Seed," which has Suskulan, an AI character, in it, and wanted to know what other works had influenced my thinking. I have no idea how much that character influenced the development of AI, but Claude thought it had quite a bit. I don't know how much weight to put on this as reality, or how much is Claude being sycophantic. You need to take what AIs say along such lines with a great deal of salt.<br></div><br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 11:06 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><b>…</b></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…Hal took the idea and ran with it (a very Halish thing to do.) He was the guy smart enough to figure out how to create a blockchain system for it, enabling a person to own a number…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">We discussed a blockchain system where anyone could own any number (on that particular blockchain.) Imagine the value of owning 0 and 1. Of course it would carry no special privilege other than owning one or owning nothing on a particular blockchain. My notion is that the value of a number is the product of the scarcity of the number and the prominence of the blockchain which establishes the ownership of that number.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the case of BitCoin, the prominence of that blockchain is enormous, in contrast to competing cryptocurrencies such as DogeCoin.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hal was not only god, he was the real humility champion of the world. Anyone who knew the man would agree methinks. He flattered the hell outta me, by treating me as his equal, both online and in person (at Extro3.) This of course caused me to get an overinflated view of myself, causing me to lose in the Humility Olympics, so it mighta just been part of his sneaky game strategy. Oh I miss the hell outta that guy.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…I don’t know if he invented it himself, but somebody (I think it was Hal) figured out how to make a hash function with a limited number of solutions, each one of which requires more compute cycles to find…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Oh how I wish someone who knows the real answer would explain what happened down there in the LA basin in 2008. Does anyone here have any insight on that?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Regarding Gemini’s crediting me with orbit mechanics stuff, the only notion I will claim of any importance is the insight that a Bradburyan M-Brain would overheat, and that it would help (some) if the energy was directed, making the star into a (very slow) photon rocket. Robert himself never accepted either idea, no matter how many equations I showed him. I miss that guy too.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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