<div dir="auto">John the constitution loves you whether or not you love it back.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your beef is with the body that passed the budget. Only they can do that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regarding AI spending, Musk, Zuckerberg, Gates, Bezos, etc didn't cut spending. We can realistically bet that AI will do the science at a far lower cost. It's part of the unimaginable wealth package.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">spike</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 13, 2026, 5:56 AM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Sun, Jul 12, 2026 at 7:09 PM Gregory Jones <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Presidents don't do budgets. </i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>It is a <span class="gmail_default"><u>FACT</u></span> that <span class="gmail_default">H</span>e <span class="gmail_default">W</span>ho <span class="gmail_default">M</span>ust <span class="gmail_default">N</span>ot <span class="gmail_default">N</span>e <span class="gmail_default">N</span>amed<span class="gmail_default"> <u>DID</u> propose a budget and it included <u>MASSIVE</u> cuts to science; he also made it nearly impossible for foreign scientists to work in the USA regardless of how brilliant they may be. </span></b></font><b style="background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Here is another fact, neither of<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>those two things will <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">M</span>ake America <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">G</span>reat <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A</span>gain.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Congress does.</i></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Yes the <span class="gmail_default">C</span>onstitution is very clear about that,<span class="gmail_default"> only the House Of Representatives can propose a budget, but the Constitution matters very little thanks to our current Supreme Court. HELL, 3 of the justices voted against birthright citizenship! T</span><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent">he Constitution is equally clear that only Congress can declare war; BUT they haven't done that since 1941, </span><span style="background-color:transparent"> and yet the US has been at war with somebody<span class="gmail_default"> for most of the time since then and 110,000 American soldiers have died in combat <u>AFTER</u> the end of World War II. </span></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default">Unfortunately what the Constitution does and does not say matters very little these days.</span></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark </span></span></b></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 12, 2026, 3:51 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>China has been significantly increasing the amount of money it spends on basic scientific research at the same time that Trump, following a vigorous anti-science policy, has slashed the amount of money the US spends on Science. This has caused a significant brain drain, and unlike past occurrences this brain drain is not in a direction favorable to the US. </b></font></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02143-x" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Nobel<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Prize</span>-winner leaves US to direct an AI lab in China</b></font></a><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(80,0,80)"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark See what's on my list at </font><font size="6"><a href="https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis" rel="nofollow noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Extropolis</a></font></font></b></div><div><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="1" color="#ffffff">r..</font></span><br></font></b></div></div></div><br>
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