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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi BillK, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I am being compelled to take on adult responsibilities and will be heading out very soon (kicking and screaming (but we gotta do what we gotta do.))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>In Deep Think Max’s comments below I recognize John Smart. The material is filled with Smartisms (a very appropriately named person is John Smart (if you ever get a chance to meet him and talk, jump on that (I guarantee you will not be disappointed.)))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>John was making the lecture circuit in the area here in the 1990s. Afterwards he and I discussed MBrains (and a primitive version of my SBrain concept) where we mutually derived the notion of an advanced civilization passively signaling its presence but being reluctant to send out information.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I gotta scoot, but I will have occasional internet.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>BillK via extropy-chat<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 28 July, 2026 6:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> Extropy Chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Cc:</b> BillK <pharos@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [ExI] Superintelligent AI civilisations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>There is considerable speculation about how these AIs might behave or communicate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I asked GLM 5.2 AI to think about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>BillK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Question:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Can you consider civilisations after AGI and superintelligent AI have been developed? They will exist in virtual worlds in space data centers. The electronic speed of their thought will effectively make the physical universe appear to be 'frozen'. How would they find out if other similar civilisations exist around other stars? Would they broadcast a beacon?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail-im><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>GLM 5.2 AI Deep Think Max:</span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=gmail-messages-container><div id=gmail-message-32c06ee8-0899-4139-9792-2753a5204ac8><div id=gmail-response-content-container><p class=gmail-svelte-4sys19><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>To envision a civilization operating at the speeds you describe, we have to fundamentally abandon human-centric perspectives on time, communication, and existence</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>…<span style='color:black'>the same way we view a glacier—beautiful, perhaps, but far too slow to hold a conversation with.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=gmail-svelte-4sys19><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>