<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Half a second across the brain or around half a Hertz. Human cycle time is about 200 Hz or 400 times as fast. If it mattered, any of us could outhink a Jupiter brain. Eliezer once commented that a physically large brain would think very slowly.<br></div><br>Keith<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 30, 2026 at 3:50 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="margin:0px;min-width:0px;padding:0px 0px 20px;width:auto;font-family:"Google Sans",Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:medium"><div><div id="m_-5652751780630888349gmail-:18t" style="direction:ltr;margin:8px 0px 0px;padding:0px;font-size:0.875rem;overflow-x:hidden"><div id="m_-5652751780630888349gmail-:18s" style="direction:ltr;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-kerning:auto;font-feature-settings:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:small;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;overflow:auto hidden"><div id="m_-5652751780630888349gmail-avWBGd-51"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 12:42 PM Keith Henson via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div></span><div class="gmail_quote" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:inherit"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Light speed has always been my objection to physically large brains.</i></font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I think Mr. Jupiter <span class="gmail_default">B</span>rain<span class="gmail_default"> will be composed of billions or trillions of closely interlocked agents just as many modern AI's are, although they usually only have a few hundred. Some of those agents would be generalists and some of them would be specialists. </span><span style="background-color:transparent">Jupiter is about 85,000 miles in diameter</span><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent">, light travels at 186,000 miles a second. So <u>AT MOST</u> it would take about 0.46 seconds for one agent to send a message to another, and about 0.9 seconds for it to receive a reply. Except for very short messages that demand a near instantaneous yes or no answer, and there wouldn't be many of them, this delay would cause few problems and be compensated for by the fact that the bandwidth between agents would be <u>VASTLY</u> wider than the one the human brain uses to communicate between one side of the brain and the other. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Humans seem to have something similar to <span class="gmail_default">a</span>gent<span class="gmail_default">s going on inside their heads, but the extremely narrow bandwidth between agents means that a big improvement in one often has little improvement in any other agent. That's why somebody might be the best human chess player in the world but not be particularly good at doing anything else. </span><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span></b></font></div></div></div></div><div></div><div></div></div></div></div><div id="m_-5652751780630888349gmail-avWBGd-52" style="clear:both"></div></div></div><br></div></div>
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