<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> </span>On Fri, Aug 7, 2026 at 11:00 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Aug 7, 2026 at 12:41 PM Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Taking this track would involve someone with a different set of skills from the CEO/management team I have been looking for to tackle a full-scale gasifier project.. I am not suitable to go after a DARPA grant any more than I am to lead a huge business. Among other factors, I have no credibility.<br>
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You need a lot less than you think you need, for a Phase I. Your<br>
existing engineering work will more than suffice, though you do need<br>
to properly document it. They don't know what you've done; you need<br>
to tell them - everything relevant from college onward (assuming you<br>
got at least a BS; if not, then everything from after primary<br>
education).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Most of what I have done since college is listed on the Wikipedia page about me. Have you ever looked at it?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> So the first order of business might be to recruit someone with those skills. You have more experience in that area than I do. Any ideas?<br>
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That depends. Do you have any other issues besides that you think<br>
they'd never give you the money?</blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Scientology. They have not bothered me for close to ten years, buf if they got wind I was doing anything, they would probably go after me again. Given they intimidated the IRS, they probably would have no difficulty in influencing other parts of the government. Age is another factor. Nobody is going to fund someone likely to die before the project is done.<br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Put another way: if $200K dropped in<br>
your lap tomorrow, no strings attached other than that you make some<br>
tiny piece of a prototype, could you actually make some tiny piece of<br>
a prototype?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Maybe, not sure. The only company that ever got back to me on induction melters was Chinese. I might be able to get a price for one from them. That is probably the most expensive part.</span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The other big problem is a place to put it. I live in a condo with a 15 by 25 patio. There is no way the HOA would put up with it, not the mention that there is no way I could draw the power needed. The place can't even charge electric cars. </span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The Sylmar landfill is about 15 miles to the west. But I have been utterly unsuccessful in gaining the attention of anyone from LASAN or LADWP. Even a very small prototype would need both.<br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></span> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
If that is your only issue with you running it, there's help for that.<br>
The SBIR program includes (or included in 2024, and I suspect it may<br>
still be in place) paid-for assistance in writing Phase I SBIR grants<br>
- in other words, convincing the government to fund you. They call<br>
this assistance "Phase 0". They do this because they are well aware<br>
that a lot of people with good ideas the government would like to<br>
fund, incorrectly* think they have no credibility to convince the<br>
government to fund them.<br>
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* It's the government that's making the call. They know the types of<br>
projects and people that they'll fund. You can be as sure as you want<br>
that they'd never fund you if you applied, and cite all the evidence<br>
you want - but you do realize that is ultimately their call, not a<br>
decision you can make for them, right? You can no more make that call<br>
for them, than decide what Spike or I are having for dessert tonight.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Well, if I were in the government and someone brought this project to me, I really doubt I would fund it. Even $50 million isn't enough to build a full scale prototype. And it would take 30 of them at 2500 tons per day to cope with LA's trash. It is just too big. Still it is a lot smaller than power satellites and I worked on that for ten years.<br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></span> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
If that is your only issue with getting the government to give you the<br>
money, I can introduce you (off-list) to the folks who helped us with<br>
our Phase I, on the understanding that paid-for assistance from them<br>
won't/can't begin until the DOE releases the relevant funding<br>
opportunity (which, as noted earlier, is expected later this year),<br>
though you can talk to them to set up for that.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Introduce away. It never hurts for more people to become familiar with the idea. Eventually, when the summer heat waves are killing millions, the government (if it still exists) may decide that projects like this are a good idea.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Keith<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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