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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> John Clark <johnkclark@gmail.com> <br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Aug 9, 2026 at 9:56<span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span>PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Keith Henson <<a href="mailto:hkeithhenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">hkeithhenson@gmail.com</a>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <br>>…</span></b>A large power failure in Phoenix during a heat wave would kill at least a million.<br> <br>Keith<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>This is a powerful argument for setting up AI data centers along the CA/NV state line, then using it as redundant emergency power supplies to Phoenix.<span class=gmaildefault> </span>In this scenario, life-saving power could be diverted from AI in CA to AC in AZ.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>…Hmm... That's not a bad idea. </span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>…John K Clark</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Imposter! <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>What have you done with John, and how much ransom do you want? We will pass the hat over on Extropolis and here. What payment form do AI virtual kidnappers demand for ransom? Tokens?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>If I see a company buying up land along the 95 corridor north and west of Las Vegas, I will have a pretty good idea what they have in mind, and I will likely invest in that company. They could set up data centers out there, use most of it for that, then be ready to sell expensive high profit emergency or peak power to Phoenix, San Deigo, Los Angeles, Bakersfield, Las Vegas. They could import coal from neighboring Utah or from Wyoming since there are huge reserves of bituminous coal out there, as well as pentiful natural gas reserves. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The carbon burning plants can be built quickly, then over a few more years, they could build out the slower nuke plants. In Nevada there are plenty of places to stow nuclear waste. Anyone who doesn’t know what I mean, I do sincerely recommend a road trip across route 50 from Fallon to Ely Nevada. You can even do it virtually if you prefer. You will see lotta lotta this kind of thing:<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nevada/@39.5216239,-116.3691683,3a,75y,260.21h,63.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2SEwIUGxf84XVtEsX6As9A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D26.143114797803833%26panoid%3D2SEwIUGxf84XVtEsX6As9A%26yaw%3D260.21127887850247!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x80990aa1f8deb471:0xcf47038aaafc95b3!8m2!3d38.8026097!4d-116.419389!16zL20vMDU5X2M!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D">https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nevada/@39.5216239,-116.3691683,3a,75y,260.21h,63.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s2SEwIUGxf84XVtEsX6As9A!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D26.143114797803833%26panoid%3D2SEwIUGxf84XVtEsX6As9A%26yaw%3D260.21127887850247!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x80990aa1f8deb471:0xcf47038aaafc95b3!8m2!3d38.8026097!4d-116.419389!16zL20vMDU5X2M!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgxMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D</a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>There is enough space in Nevada alone to stow all the nuclear waste we can possibly generate, which is something the pro-nuke greens have been pointing out for at least two decades.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>