<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Wed, Aug 19, 2026 at 5:15 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span style="background-color:transparent"> </span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7064698048392391242"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7064698048392391242WordSection1"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>…Your buddy King Donald The First invoked the Fifth Amendment 440 times during a 2022 deposition in the New York Attorney General's investigation into Donald's unethical and probably illegal business practices….</span></b></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>He didn’t have a blanket pardon, as Dr. Fauci does. Dr. Fauci cannot be incriminated if he cannot be prosecuted.</i></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Maybe I'm missing something but I don't see what that has to do with the price of eggs in China.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span> </b></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7064698048392391242"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7064698048392391242WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></b></p></div></div></div></blockquote><b style="background-color:transparent"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></b><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7064698048392391242"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7064698048392391242WordSection1"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>…I guess he had forgotten that in 2016</span></b><span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">, </span></b></span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">before he had become the King</span></b><span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">,</span></b></span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Donald said “<i>The mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”<u></u><u></u></i></span></b></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Weaponized legal system John. Our legal system has been weaponized for political purposes.</i></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>A keen grasp of the obvious<span class="gmail_default" style="">. One of the key goals of Donald's second term of office is revenge, and his Justice Department is a good way for him to get it. </span> </b></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <b style="background-color:transparent"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>…So you're saying<span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"> </span>it was wrong for Biden to give a pardon to save a doctor from a partisan witch hunt, but it was OK for King Donald to give 1580 blanket pardons (and 14 commutations<span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault">) </span>to <span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault">the </span>traitors who were part of <span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault">his</span> unsuccessful<span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"> </span>January 6, 2021 coup d'état attempt?<span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"> </span></span></b></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7064698048392391242"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7064698048392391242WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><i style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Had that been a coup attempt, they would have come armed. </font></i></span></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>A coup d'état <span class="gmail_default" style="">is </span>by definition<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span> a sudden, illegal takeover of a government by a small group<span class="gmail_default" style=""> of</span> political insiders who force out the current leaders<span class="gmail_default" style=""> or attempt to change the results of a free election. And that fits the description of what happened on January 6, 2021 when a man that had lost a presidential election gathered together a huge mob and told them to march to the Capitol Building and get the people inside to change the results of a free election. And if it wasn't for the actions of the vice president it would've been a successful </span>coup d'état<span class="gmail_default" style="">. </span></b></font><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7064698048392391242"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7064698048392391242WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-7064698048392391242gmaildefault"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>A native American shaman with a ceremonial spear isn’t </span>coup d'état<span style="font-size:13.5pt">. </span></i></font></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>It is <span class="gmail_default" style="">a </span>coup d'état if that particular spear carrying thug is part of a mob led by the President of the United States that overwhelmed the capital police and made its way inside the Senate chamber while his fellow mob members smeared their feces on the walls of the capital while carrying confederate flags. That had not happened before even during the Civil War! We used to be able to brag that we had always had a peaceful transfer of power after an election, but we can't say that anymore. And to any lover of the Constitution that should be unforgivable, but not for you, Donald is and will always be Mr. Perfect<span class="gmail_default" style="">.</span></b></font><div><font size="4"><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>the senators had already evacuated the capital building by the time the protestors came in the door</i></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">Well l</span>et's see what Elon <span class="gmail_default" style="">M</span>usk's<span class="gmail_default" style=""></span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">Grok has to say about your claim. </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font></span></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">ME: </span><span style="background-color:transparent">Somebody told me that on January 6, 2021 "the senators and congressman had already evacuated the capital building by the time the protestors came in the door" is that correct?</span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span style="background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default" style="">Grok: "</span></span></b></font><font size="4"><strong style="background-color:transparent"><u>No, that is not correct</u>.</strong><span style="background-color:transparent"> Rioters (often called protesters in some accounts) first entered the U.S. Capitol building </span><em style="background-color:transparent">while</em><span style="background-color:transparent"> members of Congress were still inside conducting the electoral vote certification. <u>Evacuation of senators, representatives, and Vice President Mike Pence occurred </u></span><em style="background-color:transparent"><u>after</u></em><span style="background-color:transparent"><u> the initial breaches, not before</u>.</span></font></div><div>
<p dir="auto" style="white-space-collapse: preserve;"><font size="4">Key points from contemporaneous reporting and detailed timelines (Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, Newsweek, BBC, USA Today, and others):</font></p>
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<li><font size="4">Outer barricades were breached earlier (around 1–1:45 p.m.), with crowds advancing on the building. Office buildings nearby were ordered evacuated around 1:26 p.m., but the Capitol itself (where Congress was meeting) had not been emptied.</font></li>
<li><font size="4">Rioters first forced entry into the Capitol building itself around <strong>2:11–2:15 p.m.</strong> (breaking windows and doors on the northwest side/Senate wing and elsewhere). Video and security footage confirm people climbing through smashed windows and streaming inside shortly after 2 p.m.</font></li>
<li><font size="4">At that moment, the joint session had split into House and Senate chambers to debate an objection to Arizona’s electors. Proceedings were still underway. Pence was presiding in the Senate; lawmakers were present and debating.</font></li>
<li><font size="4">Evacuation orders followed the breaches:</font><ul dir="auto">
<li><font size="4">Around 2:13 p.m., Secret Service moved Pence from the Senate floor (he remained in the complex initially).</font></li>
<li><font size="4">The Senate was called into recess shortly after the first entries; members were ordered out around 2:20–2:30 p.m.</font></li>
<li><font size="4">The House adjourned around 2:20 p.m.; evacuation of the House chamber and gallery continued into the 2:40s, with some members still inside or nearby when rioters reached doors and the Speaker’s Lobby. Ashli Babbitt was shot at about 2:44 p.m. while attempting to enter that area as lawmakers were still being cleared.</font></li>
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<li><font size="4"><u>Some members and staff were trapped or delayed inside</u> offices, galleries, or corridors for longer; others were moved to secure locations (including tunnels to office buildings or, for leadership, Fort McNair). Congress did not fully reconvene until later that evening after the building was cleared.</font></li>
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<font size="4">In short:<u> the building was breached with Congress still in session inside</u>. Members were ordered to evacuate in response to the intrusion, and some came close to the advancing crowd (e.g., reports of rioters within tens of feet of chambers or of officers redirecting groups away from senators). The claim that everyone had already left by the time people “came in the door” does not match the established timeline.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"</span></font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div></div><font size="4"><b><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>J<span class="gmail_default" style="">ohn K Clark</span></font></b></font></div></div>