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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> John Clark <johnkclark@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 September, 2026 11:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> spike@rainier66.com<br><b>Cc:</b> ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] I hate to say it but, I agree with Trump<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>On Fri, Sep 4, 2026 at 11:31 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>></span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>> </span></b></span><span class=m5378958259425364418gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>thanks to Donald's idiotic Iranian war, American anti-missile missiles are now in serious short supply….</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=m5378958259425364418gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>> </span></i></span><span class=m5378958259425364418gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>How do you know that? </span></i></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…I know that because of a skill I managed to pick up when I was five, I learned how to read…<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>But you somehow failed in the subsequent years to learn how to evaluate sources. Those writing on the subject have no access to the information upon which they are opining. Those who know are not telling. <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>Notice there was a massive barrage from Iran today, which scored no hits on US personnel. Rather remarkable success with missiles they no longer have. That being said… If the USA does actually run short of defensive missiles, you do know what happens next, ja? Think about it, even if it is unthinkable.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>>>… </span></i></span><span class=m5378958259425364418gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>Do you have access to top secret inventories? </span></i></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…Army bureaucrats m<span class=gmaildefault>ay stamp "top secret" on t</span>hose inventories but doing so is about as silly as the movie <span class=gmaildefault>"</span>top secret<span class=gmaildefault>" because there is no practical way of keeping something like that secret….<o:p></o:p></span></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>I see, so having defensive systems squirrelled away on every military property everywhere is not practical? Then not advertising that they are there is not practical? Do elaborate please.<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…But</span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> I do have access to your favorite AI, <span class=gmaildefault>G</span>rok:<span class=gmaildefault> </span> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…ME</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>: Is it true that because of the Iran war the US supply of anti-missile missiles have been significantly reduced?</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…GROK</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>: "</span></b><strong><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>Yes</span></u></strong><strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>. Reports from multiple sources indicate that U.S. stocks of key anti-missile interceptors have been<u> significantly reduced due to the ongoing Iran conflict</u> (often referred to as starting around late February 2026).</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p style='white-space-collapse: preserve'><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Grok has no security clearance. It can only give us reports based on unclassified reports. But very well, let us continue, shall we?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><strong><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>>…Patriot interceptors</span></u></strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>: …</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><strong><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif'>>…THAAD interceptors</span></u></strong><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>: …</span><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p style='white-space-collapse: preserve'><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt'>Ja, they have plenty of missiles left for what is left to be done. Grok does cede that their source is “some estimates” which is the functional equivalent to it doesn’t know. That it doesn’t know is intentional. Do keep in mind what happens if the US military really does run short of defensive missiles. They bomb Tehran into the seventh century, then drop a few more until the Iranians accept Jesus Ramirez as their lord and savior.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>…<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:23.1pt'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>></span></b><span class=gmaildefault><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>></span></b></span><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>…So under wartime conditions<span class=m5378958259425364418gmaildefault> </span>you're gonna build a new road….</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span class=gmaildefault><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>> </span></i></span><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif'>No, build them now.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…"Now" is a wartime condition… John K Clark<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>John you really aren’t getting this at all. Iran is attacking US military bases in those countries you listed. They haven’t attacked those countries intentionally, for very good reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>The Strait of Hormuz is mined. Iran has the option to mine it at any time, then claim they didn’t do it. The US has the option to blockade it from the south at any time. Every oil-producing nation in the Middle East knows they cannot rely on that strait as their only means to transport oil. But they can rely on roads and trucks. They can rely what happens next if Iran attacks their roadbuilders or oil fields: the few surviving Iranians will be praying to Jesus Ramirez. It is looking to me like this war might escalate dramatically. If it does, this will be a bad thing.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>