<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 9:29 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent"> </span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5871513106905208447"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-5871513106905208447WordSection1"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>>…I'm confused.</span></b><span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> Y</span></b></span><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">ou believe the<span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"> E</span>xtropian<span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"> List is not the place to discuss the best ways to find the electrical energy needed to power a superintelligence?! <u></u><u></u></span></span></b></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i>This is the place for power discussions, which is what my post was about.  You were reading politics into it. </i></span></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4" style="" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b style="">A</b></font></span><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b> <span class="gmail_default" style="">S</span>uperintelligence needs a <span class="gmail_default" style="">d</span>atacenter<span class="gmail_default" style="">. A data center needs power. A Republican politician gave $2 billion of taxpayer money to a foreign corporation to STOP constructing a power plant even though it was nearly finished and even though that power would have been used by the US. You refuse to criticize that Republican politician about that or about any other equally ridiculous thing he has done. <u>How could I not read politics into that</u>? </span></b></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><font face="georgia, serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style=""> > </span></font><span style="background-color:transparent"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Of the data centers going in, I know of none which are building wind energy to power them.  Do you know of any? </span></span></font></i></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>That's a silly question because <span class="gmail_default" style="">e</span>lectrical energy is fungible.<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span> </b></font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5871513106905208447"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-5871513106905208447WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5871513106905208447gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I would argue that all wind farms belong on land.  Otherwise you are fighting the boat people<span class="gmail_default" style=""> [...]</span></font></i></span></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>If you want to build an offshore wind farm you will be fighting anybody who has anemomenophobia, like a president with Don Quixote syndrome<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><b><br></b></font></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><font size="4"><b style=""><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">John K Clark</font></span><br></b></font><div><br></div></div></div>