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<span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">During the early days of pollution control devices on cars, California was the most demanding.</span></b></span>"</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">With good reason. I am not sure if you are old enough or spent time in LA, but in 1972 the air was unbreathable before the pollution controls went into effect.<br></div><br>Keith<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 1:37 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-5623480055244650721"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-5623480055244650721WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <br><br></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">>… <span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault">He told the truth, very much at his own expense, as the locals who previously loved his cars dumped them at a big loss. The electric car market which was growing, reversed and is now swooning: <u></u><u></u></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.veloz.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Q2-2026_EV-Market-Share-in-CA-1024x598.png" target="_blank">https://www.veloz.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Q2-2026_EV-Market-Share-in-CA-1024x598.png</a><u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">>…</span></b></span><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">However he was right. He told us the truth. spike<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Also note, California is mandating the phase out of gasoline powered cars. It is now clear that notion isn’t going to work. The government cannot make people buy what they don’t want, and it cannot legally prevent people from buying what they want out of state and bringing it home. The fed can prevent that prohibition, based on the interstate commerce clause, Article 1, section 8, clause 3: The congress shall have the power… to regulate commerce with foreign nations, among the several states and with the Indian tribes.” That has been traditionally interpreted as the fed can prevent California from restricting proles from buying cars out of state and licensing them here.<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">During the early days of pollution control devices on cars, California was the most demanding. Some car makers had 49 state models and California models. The 49ers were lighter, faster, cheaper and had higher fuel economy. Eventually other states adopted California standards and carmakers just built them all that way. But after the Chevron decision, it is very possible we will see the return of cars without catalytic converters.<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">If the California legislature tries to hold onto the 2035 mandates (which I predict they will not) they will kill in-state gasoline car sales. The price of gasoline went way up, but the price of electric power went up even more, killing most of the savings incentive.<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5623480055244650721gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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