<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">I get Science, so I read it before John posted.</div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:small" class="gmail_default">Near as I could see, the article was reporting findings. The tone was more of astonishment or amusement than pushing any view.<br></div><br>Keith<br></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 9:50 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 12:32 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2026 at 11:58 AM Adrian Tymes <<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com" target="_blank">atymes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Yes, you can't be responsible for what other people write, and bad on<br>
>> them for feeding into this hype. I'm asking that you be responsible for what you give extra signal to.<br>
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> I promise you this, in the future I will give ONE HELL OF A LOT MORE attention to what the journal SCIENCE has to say than what you have to say!<br>
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The journal made the same mistake you made.<br>
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Science journalists are science journalists. I individually can't<br>
talk them down that readily. Anything I said to them would get<br>
ignored regardless of its truth.<br>
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I can, however, speak to you. You have known, in the past, that<br>
appeals to authority are logical fallacies. "Respected journal" is<br>
one such authority.<br>
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