<div dir="ltr"><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> "</span> <span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> is there any point in blaming the Libertarians, who are less than 1%?  <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> "</span></span></b></span></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br></div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"> Actually, yes. In trying to attract them, the Republicans picked up the worst of Libertarian memes. So we had things like Musk's crew firing the DoE people who maintain the nuclear stockpile, and the Forest Service firefighters, plus a large fraction of the public health people, and research scientists. China will displace the US as the place where advances happen.</span> <br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><br>Keith<br></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 6:26 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1617285560297789013"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-1617285560297789013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Re: [ExI] Trump suggests letting Iran ‘take out’ Los Angeles and San Diego<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 7:53<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif">Would you like to restate your comment please John?</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">>…No thanks, I'm good</span></b><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.</span></b></span><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span></b></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">>…ME</span></u></b><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">: In the 2016 presidential election, if the libertarian vote had gone for the Democratic candidate, would Donald Trump still have won the electoral college?  <span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault">John K Clark<u></u><u></u></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">In all that, you fail to recognize that the Democrat vote didn’t all go for the Democrat candidate.  A large percentage of the republican vote went against the republican candidate.  I doubt it was a third, but it was likely about a quarter.  We may never know, but the Orange Man Bad faction was huge and vocal in the republican party.  Since the two mainstream parties are about the same size, many voters must have crossed party lines in both directions.<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">When we are talking about a quarter of the mainstream voting cross-party, is there any point in blaming the Libertarians, who are less than 1%?  <u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">spike<u></u><u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-1617285560297789013gmaildefault"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><blockquote style="border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);border-style:none none none solid;border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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