<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 4:02 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I considered that, were I to become President on the Democratic<br>ticket, one of my actions would be to urge the Democratic party to<br>blacklist those who:<br>* in 2016, directed that Clinton should be given extra delegates<br>("superdelegates") in opposition to early primary results, </i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>I agree that<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span><span style="background-color:transparent">superdelegates<span class="gmail_default" style=""> were a very bad idea, but </span></span><span style="background-color:transparent">I'm not quite sure what you mean by </span><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent">"</span><span style="background-color:transparent">blacklist</span><span class="gmail_default" style="background-color:transparent">". </span><span style="background-color:transparent"> </span></b></font></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="">> </span>* in 2024, promoted the idea that Biden should step aside after the<br>voters had selected him, not Harris or anyone else, as the Democrats'<span class="gmail_default" style=""> </span>nominee.</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>After Biden's <u>disastrous</u> debate performance<span class="gmail_default" style=""> there was no other option because there was zero possibility he could win in the general election, but LONG before that leading Democrats should've strongly urged Biden NOT to try for a second term, and if he refused to take their advice they should've encouraged other Democrats to challenge him for the nomination. </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span></b></font></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Oct 9, 2026 at 1:34 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Ja of course. Where I am going with this is that when one party sufficiently dominates a government, then all of the offices are held by members of that party. Then the elections become meaningless because the voters have no way of knowing the veracity of the outcome. For decades, the USSR pretended to have elections, but for some mysterious reason, the communist candidate won every time with well over 90% of the vote.<br>
<br>
Lest you think your implication - and yes, you are making one -<br>
slides: it is observably the case that California, with a basically<br>
all-Democrat (and thus, one-party) government, has far more reliable<br>
and verifiable elections than the USSR did.<br>
<br>
> I am watching the current democrat party struggle to explain its loss in 2024, amused at its flat refusal to admit or even mention what is completely obvious to neutral outside observers: their party is fighting itself. Adrian you are astute enough to state the obvious.<br>
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This was only one of the causes. There is no one single cause of what<br>
happened in late 2024. But, yes, that was among the causes.<br>
<br>
I considered that, were I to become President on the Democratic<br>
ticket, one of my actions would be to urge the Democratic party to<br>
blacklist those who:<br>
* in 2016, directed that Clinton should be given extra delegates<br>
("superdelegates") in opposition to early primary results, or<br>
* in 2024, promoted the idea that Biden should step aside after the<br>
voters had selected him, not Harris or anyone else, as the Democrats'<br>
nominee.<br>
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