<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 3:10 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <</span><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><b><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif">
> A modern nuclear missile submarine stays 1000 feet underwater for months at a time, so the captain of the submarine is completely cut off from what's going on in the outside world except for a ultra low frequency ultra low bandwidth military radio receiver that can only receive about 2 words a minute, so the only way he would know that the US was under attack was if his Commander and Chief told him it was under attack. And then his orders would be clear, launch all missiles.</font></b></blockquote>
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<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>The comms wouldn't go directly from POTUS to sub. The chain of orders<br>
would likely be intercepted and halted before they could be sent to<br>
the sub if the US was not actually under attack.</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Once a launch of an ICBM<span class="gmail_default" style=""> in Asia from an enemy nation has been detected and its trajectory definitively determined to be a city in the USA the President of the United States will almost certainly be dead in 20 minutes. Yes the Secret Service will try to evacuate POTUS from Washington to a "secure location", </span>but you can't get very far in 20 minutes<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">, </span></b></font><b style="background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default">less than that if the missile came from an enemy submarine just off the coast,</span></b><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;background-color:transparent"><span class="gmail_default"> and the enemy probably has a pretty good idea where that </span></b><b style="background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default">"secure location" is likely to be. So unfortunately there simply isn't time for everybody in the chain of command to second guess the president's decision to launch. And that's why it's not a good idea to vote for an ignorant amoral imbecile to be in the White House. </span></b></div><div><b style="background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></b></div><div><b style="background-color:transparent;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default">John K Clark</span></b></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div>
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