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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>…</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Where should we build new multi-gigawatt AI Data centers?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>The local opposition to new AI data centers in the USA has started to worry me, so I asked GPT another question. </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p><b><u><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>ME</span></u></b><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>: What are the prospects of building multi-gigawatt AI Data centers in Canada?<span class=gmaildefault> John K Clark</span></span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>>…GPT: " </span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Canada is potentially one of the world's best locations for enormous AI data centers. In some respects, I think it has a better long-term opportunity than Iceland because it combines abundant freshwater, a cold climate, enormous hydroelectric resources, and a much larger land area and electricity system…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alaska is better than Canada. If hydroelectric power is used to power data centers, it runs up the price of power to locals: hydro is inherently limited. If we could even find a suitable river without dams, the environmentalists will fight like demons to keep it that way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alaska has cold water available to dump the waste heat without need for fresh water: use a closed loop cooling system with a heat exchanger to dump waste heat directly into seawater without evaporation. Burn natural gas or coal, which can be set up quickly. A gas turbine is noisy but way out there in the Aleutian Islands, that doesn’t matter. Hauling coal out there is not a show stopper. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From what I can tell, the limiting factor in Alaska is communications: being way out there in the sea suggests signals would need to come and go via satellite. This could be done if we had one hell of a lot more satellites carrying signals. This can be arranged.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alaska is better than Canada for AI: the Canadian government cannot be trusted to keep its greedy paws off of the data centers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>