<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;background-color:transparent">On Fri, Nov 6, 2026 at 11:18 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"><i style=""><font face="georgia, serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>If you consider a drug too expensive, don’t buy it.</font></i></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Great choice<span class="gmail_default" style=""> you have given us</span>, don't buy <span class="gmail_default" style="">the drug</span> and die<span class="gmail_default" style=""> rich</span>,<span class="gmail_default" style=""> or buy it and live in poverty. Spike, why do you insist on never changing, on always doing things the same way we have always been doing things even when it's obviously stupid and is killing thousands of American citizens each year? </span></b></font></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size="4" face="georgia, serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>A lot of research is done in the USA</i></font></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>And a lot of research is done elsewhere, research into Wegovy for example as I pointed out in my previous post<span class="gmail_default" style=""> was done in <u>Denmark</u></span>. So what lame excuse have you managed to dream of to explain the huge discrepancy in the cost of Wegovy in the two countries<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>when <u>neither country had anything to do with the research, development, or manufacture of Wegovy</u>? </b></font><div><b style="background-color:transparent;font-size:large"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></b></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Drugs are controlled tightly in the USA.</i></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b>Yes, and a libertarian would say <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">drugs</span> are<span class="gmail_default" style=""> far <u>FAR</u> </span> <span class="gmail_default" style="">too tightly controlled in the USA. So Spike I ask you yet again, are you a libertarian? </span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style=""><br></span></b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><span class="gmail_default" style="">John K Clark</span></b></font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg9137690442471470620"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_9137690442471470620WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 5, 2026 at 5:43<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span>PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">Medicine does cost a lot more in the USA, </span></i><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Yes, a LOT more.</span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">for reasons we already established:</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">No, you have never done that.<span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"> </span> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Georgia,serif"> </span></i><span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Georgia,serif">the cost of the research and qualification must be paid back.  </span></i><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">>…But you have never coherently explained why US citizens and <span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault">US</span> citizens<span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"> ALONE must </span>pay <span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault">for </span>the <span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault">ENTIRE</span> research and development costs of every drug in existence<span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault">,</span> even though they are only 4% of the world's population. And <u>even if the US had nothing to do with the R&D or manufacturer of the drug</u>!<span class="m_9137690442471470620gmaildefault"> </span></span></b></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg9137690442471470620"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_9137690442471470620WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div>