[Paleopsych] armageddon fantasies

Steve shovland at mindspring.com
Wed Sep 29 00:57:59 UTC 2004

If you think of it in neural net terms, you might
conclude that we will have to go through some
learning cycles before a new equilibrium is
established  :-)

Steve Hovland

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From:	Werbos, Dr. Paul J. [SMTP:paul.werbos at verizon.net]
Sent:	Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:30 PM
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Subject:	RE: [Paleopsych] armageddon fantasies

At 02:11 PM 9/28/2004 -0700, Steve wrote:
>It's also a convergence of events- bad weather and all
>its side effects like famine and property destruction,
>catastrophic competition for basic resources like energy
>and water, along with the rise of exteme belief systems
>on various sides.
>In the past I have speculated that if Jung visited America
>today he would have the same misgivings he had when
>he visited pre-War Germany.  There is a darkness rising
>from our collective psyche for which I think we will pay
>a terrible price.

There is a disturbance in the Force...

yes, but not just in America.

>There are many Baby Boomers who did not engage
>the Vietnam issue, and I think that many of them will be
>getting their kids back in body bags because they did not
>learn the lessons then.
>Those of us who process our stuff in therapy instead of
>projecting it onto the world in the form of  mass violence
>need to keep thinking about what we want the reconstruction
>to look like.
>Steve Hovland
>-----Original Message-----
>From:   Michael Christopher [SMTP:anonymous_animus at yahoo.com]
>Sent:   Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:32 PM
>To:     paleopsych at paleopsych.org
>Subject:        [Paleopsych] armageddon fantasies
> >>But now I am thinking that we are caught up in
>something that may as well be called "The Apocalypse."
>  Of course, this does not mean THE END OF THE WORLD,
>but just The End Of The World As We Know It.<<
>--It does seem there is a convergence of beliefs about
>the end of the world. Christians are eagerly awaiting
>the End Times, complete with Big Brother and WWIII and
>Jesus returning to rule with an iron rod. New agers
>talk of the end of the Mayan calendar and "timewave
>zero". Radical Muslims are doing their best to revive
>the Crusades and prepare for a new Islamic empire.
>It's as if there's a strange attractor in the global
>Expectations are more powerful than the will. It's
>very hard to prepare for a future you don't believe is
>possible, and with so many people preparing for
>Armageddon, it seems there is great potential for
>self-fulfilling prophesies to take on a life of their
>own, regardless of what individuals want.
>I can only imagine the guilt this generation will
>carry when its children hold it accountable for what
>was left to them.
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