[Paleopsych] ParaPundit: Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
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Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
2005 August 14 Sunday
Whites Still Do Manual Labor In Wisconsin
Over at No Speed Bumps Dan reports on how during a vacation
trip in Wisconsin he found white people doing all the manual labor
jobs that are done by Hispanics in Texas.
Two weeks ago I vacationed near Oshkosh, Wisconsin. One thing
strikingly different than living in Texas was that there were few
Hispanics. In Texas, Hispanics are found in all walks of life, from
doctors to janitors.
With so many impoverished Hispanics illegally moving to Texas over
the southern border each year, they have taken over most of the
lower-skill jobs because they will work for less than American
citizens. Go to any restaurant, hotel, or construction site and all
of the basic manual labor tasks are being done by low-income
Anyway, while on vacation, in the hotels we stayed in all of the
maid staff and other help were white. The same was true of all of
the restaurants we ate in, from the cooks, to the bus boys, to the
grounds keepers. I felt like we were in a time machine and in a
An interesting note about the maid staff at the hotels was the good
cheer that they were in. They were constantly chatting among
themselves and seemed very content as they went about their work.
This reminded me that, yes, there is dignity to manual labor, and
yes, white people can still do manual labor.
This runs counter to the fashionable argument today justifying the
open border policy with Mexico. The argument goes that America
could just not function without all of the low-skill workers coming
in to do all of the manual labor. Well, that is ridiculous. It may
drive prices up some, if American citizens (whether white, black,
or any other race) must do the work but the work will still get
done, one way or another.
One of the big whopper lies told by open borders advocates such as
George W. Bush is that there are "jobs that Americans won't do". This
is nonsense. One only need travel to those places where the bulk of
the population is still white to see that this claim is false
As for the argument that a lack of cheap immigrant labor will drive up
prices, it rests on three fallacies:
* That low skilled labor makes up much of total costs. Wrong-o
sleigh bell lovers. The bottom quintile of the United States
population earns only 3.5% of national income. 20% get 3.5%.
If we deported all the illegal aliens and stopped all low skiilled
and moderate skilled immigration the bottom 20% would see some
significant increase in their wages. But that increase would be
unlikely raise total prices by even a couple of percent. We don't
pay them that much. A 10% or 20% increase in their salaries won't
matter much to the rest of the population.
* That there are no substitutes for cheap labor. Again, wrong-o
sleigh bell lovers. Necessity is the mother of invention. In all
likelihood, faced with higher labor costs industry would be more
eager to develop and buy more capital equipment and to arrange the
methods of purveying goods and services to decrease the amount of
labor needed. In fact, we have an example available for what the
lack of cheap immigrant labor will do to an industry. The
Australian wine industry is more automated than the American wine
industry due to lack of cheap immigrant labor in Australia. Ben
Franklin was right. We'd advance more rapidly without simple minds
available to do simple tasks cheaply.
* That there are no external costs to cheap unskilled immigrant
labor. And once again, wrong-o sleigh bell lovers. Low skilled
laborers can not afford to pay for their own medical care. They
don't pay enough in taxes to pay for the educations of their
children. They do not make enough to pay for their retirements in
the United States. The list goes on. Oh, and they commit crime at
higher rates. So they cost crime victims and also the criminal
justice system. A year for an inmate at Rikers Island in New York
costs $47,000. Criminals are expensive for the rest of us in many
The Open Borders advocates are deeply dishonest. America's elites are
corrupt. They lie. They can not be trusted. America is going down a
very wrong path. Our leaders in business and politics are to blame.
But so are apathetic members of the public. It is time to wake up and
demand a stop to massive immigration. The costs have become far too
high and will be with us for decades to come.
By Randall Parker at 2005 August 14 06:44 PM Immigration
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in vermont too. many more latinos work in oregon than 10 years ago
though, and i hear that similar things are going on in the south. i
suspect that for a variety of reasons the upper midwest and new
england (distance, climate, cost of living) will resist latino labor
Posted by: razib on August 14, 2005 08:55 PM
Resistance is futile. Viva La Rasa.
Posted by: Mark on August 14, 2005 10:59 PM
There would be a net savings from reversing the antimerit immigrant
flow, some of which would be passed on to the consumers. If the bottom
20% gets paid so little that their wages could double without the rich
even noticing it, shifting 4% of the total income away from the top
80% over several years, that is a worthwhile price to pay. There is no
economic need to increase the size of the bottom end; it isn't about
money, it's about power. How to get power, when there are no ideas;
won't they use immigration to increase racial conflict, and say that
officials must have more power?
Posted by: John S Bolton on August 14, 2005 11:26 PM
For some reason my trackbacks to this post don't take, so ping!
Posted by: Dave Schuler on August 15, 2005 07:47 AM
Eastern Washington, North Idaho, and Montana are alot like Wisconsin
in that low end labor jobs are done primarly by whites. We have very
few illegal aliens in this part of the country. This is good because
we have much less of the "servant" culture that you see in California
and other places. People clean their own homes and often do their own
yard work. If you have someone else do these things, they are done by
outside services operating more like independent business people
rather than as "domestics". Not having the illegal immigrants means
that we have a much more "do it yourself" mentality than, say, in
I do not like that "class" mentality that illegal immigration has
produced in places like California and Texas. I think having distinct
social classes, especially if they are of different races, is very
destructive to the future of the U.S. The "open-borders" people need
to be grilled over this issue.
Posted by: Kurt on August 15, 2005 10:01 AM
razib - don't underestimate the number of mexicans in the upper
midwest - chicago has the 2nd highest mexican population in the u.s.
after l.a. granted this isn't wisconsin, but....
randall - in a similar, practical manner that you approach alternative
energy solutions, i.e. can't tell people to drive less or other
inconveniences that would be a political non-starter in america today;
what would be your political platform for immigration that would be
politically feasible? i would love to know what you'd recommend,
having put considerable thought to this issue, assuming something like
you were an advisor to your senator. thanks.
Posted by: Jim on August 15, 2005 01:22 PM
I spent a few days in Sierra Vista, AZ, a booming town about 15 miles
north of the Mexican border. Strikingly, the maids in my motel were
white, as were a lot of the other service workers. The answer to this
paradox is that Sierra Vista is within the narrow band heavily policed
by the Border Patrol. If illegal aliens are found there, they are
deported. But if they make it far enough north to Tucson or Phoenix,
well, they're Ollie Ollie Home Free.
Posted by: Steve Sailer on August 15, 2005 02:03 PM
Perhaps I don't understand your question. Politically feasible? I
think a candidate for the Presidency could run on a platform to deport
all the illegals and win. The dollar cost to the government of
deporting all the illegals would be pretty low.
The anger about the immigrant deluge is building. But politicians are
chasing the votes of Hispanics, the Democrats see them as a solid
Democrat voting bloc (and they are), and some business interests want
I'd tell a US Senator to submit a bill to fund a barrier along the
entire length of the border. I'd also propose upping the number of
Border Patrol by 20,000 and setting them loose in the interior with
orders to round up all illegals. Congress should give instructions to
DHS to resume interior enforcement.
Posted by: Randall Parker on August 15, 2005 03:33 PM
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