[Paleopsych] NYT: Social Security Underestimates Future LifeSpans, Critics Say

Thu Jan 6 05:30:43 UTC 2005

Doing good work after 55 is reserved for those NOT in 
the sciences....I've heard that scientists are washed 
up after 35.

Since I'm a bit older than you, I marvel at when these 
young scholars THINK they have gained expertise in 
their discipline.  I continue learning each day.

Gerry Reinhart-Waller
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~waluk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Hovland" <shovland at mindspring.com>
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Underestimates Future LifeSpans,Critics Say

>I have heard many people do their best work after 55.
>
> Having reached that age, it seems to me that it may
> take that long to gain enough skill and experience
> to do something really well.
>
> Steve Hovland
> www.stevehovland.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geraldine  Reinhardt [SMTP:waluk at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:20 PM
> To: The new improved paleopsych list
> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] NYT: Social Security 
> Underestimates Future LifeSpans, Critics Say
>
> If a scholar does excellent work then the fruits of 
> his
> labor should continue until  he can no longer 
> function
> with either a pen or keyboard.  Ernst Mayr, now over
> 100 years old,  is such a person.  I recently came 
> upon
> information that he and Jared Diamond have authored a
> new text:  The Birds of Northern Melanesia: 
> Speciation,
> Ecology, & Biogeography by Ernst Mayr, Jared Diamond,
> H. Douglas Pratt.
>
> Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ross Buck" <ross.buck at uconn.edu>
> To: "'The new improved paleopsych list'"
> <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [Paleopsych] NYT: Social Security
> Underestimates Future LifeSpans,Critics Say
>
>
>>I understand that Dewey did his best work in his 
>>80's,
>>but of course his job
>> did not depend all that much on hand-eye
>> coordination!
>>
>> Cheers, Ross
>>
>> Ross Buck, Ph. D.
>> Professor of Communication Sciences
>>   and Psychology
>> Communication Sciences U-1085
>> University of Connecticut
>> Storrs, CT 06269-1085
>> 860-486-4494
>> fax  860-486-5422
>> buck at uconnvm.uconn.edu
>> http://www.coms.uconn.edu/docs/people/faculty/rbuck/index.htm
>>
>>
>> "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
>> when they do it from
>> religious conviction."
>>
>> -- Blaise Pascal
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: paleopsych-bounces at paleopsych.org
>> [mailto:paleopsych-bounces at paleopsych.org] On Behalf
>> Of Geraldine Reinhardt
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:14 PM
>> To: The new improved paleopsych list
>> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] NYT: Social Security
>> Underestimates Future
>> LifeSpans, Critics Say
>>
>> Today on my way home I as usual took my designated
>> exit
>> off the freeway.  There parked alongside the 
>> shoulder
>> of road was an elderly gentleman in a fancy black
>> sedan.  Usually I never stop but this person looked 
>> a
>> bit bewildered.....actually confused, so I braked 
>> and
>> asked if he needed help.
>>
>> Turns out that he was on his way to a medical
>> appointment, an eye doctor to be exact, and he 
>> needed
>> to know which direction for Pasteur Drive.  He then
>> said he was from San Francisco, a doctor himself,
>> and
>> had become very confused trying to decipher his
>> secretary's directions.   He also mentioned he was
>> recently widowed and was seeing his wife's
>> ophthalmologist because she had spoken so highly of
>> his
>> ability with glaucoma procedures.
>>
>> Now I knew very well where Pasteur Drive was (it was
>> two exits beyond my apartment turn off) but I wasn't
>> certain if the road was clearly marked.  I then 
>> asked
>> the gentleman if he would like to follow me and I'd
>> lead him to his turn off.  How happy he became!  I
>> then
>> asked the name of the ophthalmologist he had his
>> appointment with. "Dr. Rubin.....only I know I'll 
>> not
>> make it in time".
>>
>> "Amazing",  I replied.  "He's the eye doctor for 
>> both
>> my husband and me"!  "But.... I don't know if I'm
>> continuing....he alarmed me during my last
>> appointment
>> when he was talking about doing corrective eye
>> surgery".
>>
>> "How old do you suppose Dr. Rubin is", asked the
>> stranger.
>>
>> Not wishing to age Dr. Rubin more than his years, I
>> replied: "Maybe in his late 50's or somewhere in his
>> 60's".  I knew Rubin had to be hitting retirement
>> age.
>>
>> "Oh" replied the doctor from San Francisco,  "I
>> performed capillary surgery until I was 73 and then
>> decided I needed to give it up".  "Yet my hands
>> didn't
>> falter and I was always on top of each case."
>>
>> As I drove to Pasteur Drive I thought about
>> comparisons
>> between repairing eye stuff and capillary
>> surgery....were they similar?  For me, the person 
>> who
>> needs to operate on my eyes should be young, bright
>> and
>> brilliant.  Yet why should eyes be that different
>> from
>> capillaries?
>>
>> Could be that we "see with our eyes".  What if we
>> "looked" with our hearts?
>>
>> Either way, when is a doctor too old to assume his
>> role
>> of physician?  I'd say that if many of us can
>> continue
>> with our calling, doctors need to do the same.
>> But....I'd like my eye-surgeon to retain a younger
>> partner.
>>
>> Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>> Independent Scholar
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~waluk
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Hovland" <shovland at mindspring.com>
>> To: "'The new improved paleopsych list'"
>> <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:33 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Paleopsych] NYT: Social Security
>> Underestimates Future LifeSpans, Critics Say
>>
>>
>>> Get ready to work longer than you expected :-)
>>>
>>> Steve Hovland
>>> www.stevehovland.net
>>>
>>>
>>> Social Security Underestimates Future Life Spans,
>>> Critics Say
>>> NYT December 31, 2004
>>> By ROBERT PEAR
>>
>> --snip-- 
>>
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