[Paleopsych] Evolutionary / Man and society

Christian Rauh christian.rauh at uconn.edu
Sat Jan 22 20:48:02 UTC 2005

This and other similar examples of welfare abuse mask the majority of 
people under welfare who are genuinely being helped.

I am sure there are as many people who got easy money on a free market 
and are living off that without producing anything. Isn't that a failure 
of that system?

And Mr. Rolf was an ex-banker living a 2500 dollar life. Ex-bankers 
usually have a much more luxurious life when they decide to rest. Poor man.


Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. wrote:
> Here is a nice example of unintended consequences of a welfare state:
> http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110006165
> The problem is systemic - perverse reward systems create perverse 
> behavior. Rolf is simply responding to the rewards offered.
> Lynn
> Hannes Eisler wrote:
>> The discussion seems somewhat odd to me. One has to distinguish 
>> between man's, let's say, inborn, dispositions, and man's behavior. 
>> The first hardly can be changed by environmental (or political) 
>> influence (here we have marxism's  big mistake), but the latter can. A 
>> society works with rewards (reinforcement) and punishment to achieve 
>> its aims, whatever they may be. Also sensitivity to reinforcement is 
>> inborn; more complicated is to establish what is working as a 
>> reinforcer for whom.
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A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over,
their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight,
restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in
the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the
horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt......
If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience
till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning
back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where
principles are at stake.

         - Thomas Jefferson, from a letter he sent in 1798 after
                             the passage of the Sedition Act


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