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Sun Mar 6 06:19:08 UTC 2005
In a message dated 3/3/2005 8:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
joe at quirk.net writes:
This is amazing! And hilarious, when it gets to the bit about writers. I'm
going to send this to my friend Howard Blooom, because it fits in with his
theory. An average of almost 4 years of life added to life expectancy awarded
to winners among 762 individuals I'd say is statistically significant. Of
course we run into that same old correlation-is-not-causation problem: How do
we know people who are naturally "vivacious" aren't more likely to win
Oscars and live longer? Maybe vivacious people tend to exercise more, live
longer, and win more Oscars.
Judith Rich Harris, who wrote "The Nurture Assumption", talks about this in
terms of broccoli. She says an article will come out: "Broccoli eaters live
7 years longer!" So reader assumes: "Broccoli can extend my life." She
points out that this is faulty logic. Maybe people who eat broccoli also tend
to be people who jog and don't smoke, and broccoli has nothing to do with
extending life. She says that when these kind of correlations confirm existing
biases, they are published as if they prove something. But when a
correleation is demonstrated that contradicts existing biases, like, say, "Prayed for
outlive other cancer patients" or "Adopted kids more violent if biological
parent was violent," then we all say, "Well, that doesn't mean... "
Still, a great little study report. Thanks for sending it.
The question is, if I stop writing now, will it extend my life?
See what I mean?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark L." <emdls at pacbell.net>
To: joe at quirk.net
Subject: Tortured Souls & Eunuchs at Orgies...
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:17:57 -0800
I read the following article... and nearly pee'd myself laughing at the
middle when I got to the part about the cruel but predictably cosmically ironic
fate of Oscar winning writers. You know, I would never want to be an Oscar
winning actor - I value my sanity, privacy and introversion too much... but it
thought it might be nice to win an Oscar in writing... till I read below...;)
_Study: Oscar Winners Outlive Other Actors_
- By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer
Saturday, February 26, 2005
(02-26) 17:48 PST TORONTO, Canada (AP) --
A Canadian professor of medicine argues that actors who win Academy Awards
on Sunday night won't only boost their chances of other box-office hits, but
will likely live longer than their fellow nominees.
Dr. Donald Redelmeier, a professor at the University of Toronto, says his
research shows that Oscar winners live nearly four years longer than other
And multiple winners, he says, live an average of six years longer. Want
proof? Katharine Hepburn, who won a record four acting prizes, lived to the ripe
old age of 96.
Redelmeier says the study proves that Oscar success has a powerful influence
on a person's health and longevity.
"Once you've got that statuette on your mantelplace, it's an uncontested
sign of peer approval that nobody can take away from you, so that any subsequent
harsh reviews, it leaves you more resilient," Redelmeier said. "It doesn't
quite get under your skin. The normal stresses and strains of everyday life do
not drag you down."
The study, funded by the Canadian Institute of Health and Ontario Ministry
of Health, included all 762 actors and actresses ever nominated for an Academy
Award in a leading or supporting role. For each nominee, researchers also
identified an actor of the same gender and roughly the same age who appeared in
the same film as the nominee.
On average, award winners lived to the age of 79.7, while non-winners lived
to be 75.8.
"Once you win, you've got a reputation to live up to, even if you weren't so
inclined, you get surrounded by an entourage that's also heavily invested in
your reputation," said Redelmeier. "So you end up sleeping properly every
night, eating well, exercising regularly every day."
An extra average of 3.9 years of life is significant, says Redelmeier,
adding that if all cancer patients in North America were cured, life expectancy
would grow by only 3.5 years.
The ongoing study, which was initially published four years ago in the
Annals of Internal Medicine, also found that the effect of winning an Academy
award is about the same for men and women, comedies and dramas, and leading and
supporting role winners.
The only Oscar winners that don't get the benefit of longevity are
screenwriters. In fact, the reverse is true. The tortured souls live on average 3.6
years fewer than those who don't win.
"We find a survival gain for the actors, the directors but we find a
survival loss for the writers," said Redelmeier, who suggests that writers aren't
coddled and are prone to bad habits, such as smoking and drinking. "Writers do
not lead such exemplary lives. They don't have to eat properly, sleep
properly or exercise at all so, as a consequence of that they don't receive any of
the monitoring that other notable individuals do."
Redelmeier said he was inspired to study the movie industry after watching
the Oscars on television. He noticed the people on stage looked nothing like
"It's not just the wardrobe and the plastic surgery and makeup, it's the way
they walk and speak, they seem so much more vivacious, much more than just
skin deep," he said. "So I thought, this is really an amazing way to look at
social gradations at the upper echelons of society."
©2005 Associated Press
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