[Paleopsych] Re: university employment for non U.S. citizens

G. Reinhart-Waller waluk at earthlink.net
Sat Mar 12 16:37:24 UTC 2005


Christian,

Ahhhh, so you are a grad student....that enplains it!

>.... And let me ask you another question:
>
> What do you think is the difference between an 
> American unemployed
> academician and a Brazilian unemployed academician?

Let's see.....maybe the size of the hole in his shoe?

Nice chatting with you.

Good luck and take care,

Gerry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christian Rauh" <christian.rauh at uconn.edu>
To: "G. Reinhart-Waller" <waluk at earthlink.net>
Cc: "The new improved paleopsych list" 
<paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: university employment for non U.S. 
citizens


> Gerry,
>
> G. Reinhart-Waller wrote:
>>
>>>> One reply an unemployed U.S. academician might 
>>>> make is "why is a
>>>> Brazilian citizen able to land a cushy job at 
>>>> state university in
>>>> Connecticut?"
>>
>> Since you are not U.S. Citizen, how long have you 
>> lived in America and
>> taught at U.Conn?  The point being....why is someone 
>> without citizenship
>> able to slot into a full time teaching job at good 
>> University when an
>> equally qualified U.S. academician is unemployed?
>
> I am a grad student at UConn, currently in my third 
> year. My
> assistanship is nothing but cushy and the reason why 
> I am in this
> position is because there was no equally qualified 
> person in the US.
>
>> Please excuse the questions....it's the way I was 
>> taught to think.
>
> Me too. And let me ask you another question:
>
> What do you think is the difference between an 
> American unemployed
> academician and a Brazilian unemployed academician?
>
> Christian
>
>>
>> Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>> Independent Scholar
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~waluk
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Rauh"
>> <christian.rauh at uconn.edu>
>> To: "Lista Paleopsych" <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] islamic radicalism
>>
>>
>>> Gerry,
>>>
>>> I don't see your point.
>>>
>>> My first point is that there is (mostly economic) 
>>> pressure to conform to
>>> US culture. Obviously, when the pressure comes from 
>>> some other place
>>> people will conform to the strongest.
>>>
>>> My second point is that people in the US are 
>>> unaware of this pressure.
>>> But at the same time fear any outside pressure from 
>>> another source
>>> themselves. For example, an international court or 
>>> an arabic country.
>>>
>>> There is no pressure for the US academician to 
>>> learn portuguese. He may
>>> do it, but solely because he chooses that.
>>>
>>> I don't think that pressure to conform is bad or 
>>> that it can be
>>> eliminated, but I think it can be better equalized.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> G. Reinhart-Waller wrote:
>>>
>>>> One reply an unemployed U.S. academician might 
>>>> make is "why is a
>>>> Brazilian citizen able to land a cushy job at 
>>>> state university in
>>>> Connecticut?"
>>>>
>>>> Are you also a U.S. citizen?
>>>>
>>>> They might further comment:  "If I learned 
>>>> Portuguese, would I then get
>>>> a decent academic job in Brazil or are such 
>>>> positions reserved for
>>>> Brazilian citizens"?
>>>>
>>>> People learn English usually because it guarantees 
>>>> them employment.  If
>>>> and when Arabic language and Muslim religion and 
>>>> lifeways become a
>>>> ticket to wealth and prosperity, then people will 
>>>> learn Arabic.
>>>>
>>>> Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian 
>>>> Rauh"
>>>> <christian.rauh at uconn.edu>
>>>> To: "G. Reinhart-Waller" <waluk at earthlink.net>; 
>>>> "Lista Paleopsych"
>>>> <paleopsych at paleopsych.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] islamic radicalism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gerry,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am a Brazilian citizen and I was forced to 
>>>>> learn english because
>>>>> without knowing it I would not be able to get a 
>>>>> decent job in this
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>> My point was to show the irony of people fearing 
>>>>> having to learn arabic
>>>>> or going to mosques when other people are having 
>>>>> to learn english. What
>>>>> they fear is to be influenced to do things they 
>>>>> otherwise would not.
>>>>>
>>>>> The US exerts pressure in other countries. In 
>>>>> other places, people have
>>>>> to learn English. One can argue that it is not a 
>>>>> deliberate and
>>>>> conscious pressure, however, to the person 
>>>>> learning the language, the
>>>>> prospect of not having a decent job is as 
>>>>> coercive as troops on the
>>>>> street. That's economic pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>> And to the counter-argument that you always have 
>>>>> the individual choice
>>>>> of *not* learning english, goes the answer that 
>>>>> you always have the
>>>>> individual choice of *not* learning arab or going 
>>>>> to mosques. But you
>>>>> will have to face the individual consequences.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a final comment, I don't think that, in 
>>>>> general, American citizens
>>>>> are aware of the amount of influence and pressure 
>>>>> that the US exerts in
>>>>> the world. That is the reason why I believe that, 
>>>>> in general, most
>>>>> Americans can't understand the cynicism that 
>>>>> foreigners have towards
>>>>> "spreading freedom".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> G. Reinhart-Waller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian Rauh writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been forced to learn English.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When?  By whom?  Why?  Which country would do 
>>>>>> such a heinous thing?
>>>>>> France?  Germany?  Sweden?  You aren't buzzin' 
>>>>>> about being an American
>>>>>> citizen and having to speak English, are you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>>>>>> Independent Scholar
>>>>>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~waluk
>>>>>>
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