[bigbangtango] Re: [Paleopsych] Morality
waluk at earthlink.net
Sat Mar 26 04:25:47 UTC 2005
How interesting that all the Lutherans you've known give hugs. I've
known quite a few (Germanic through and through) and most of them barely
smile. Yet, to each his own.
Sadat was assassinated.....guess there were a few who didn't connect
with his message. Sad though about his death. Apparently the timing
then was incorrect to denounce Iranian ayatollahs. I even doubt if
timing would now be correct.
Why would Luther or anyone be self-righteous towards the poor....that's
like claiming to be emperor of ice cream. Luther could not relate to
The German welfare state will be the downfall of the country.....what
with worker expectations of high salary, long vacations, pre-paid
benefits, etc. the country can no longer sustain its workers.
Val Geist wrote:
> Sorry, Garry, but I have known Lutherans that were open-armed and
> damned nearly saintly, and they were no exception either. In fact, I
> have in my life never quite connected attitude with religion. Anwar
> Sadat's type of Islam is what I had been acquainted with via Rudyard
> Kipling. That was, obviously, some time ago. I remember Sadat's angry
> denunciation of the ayatollahs in Tehran.. and the his assassination
> at the hand of Muslim extremists. However, back to Martin Luther and
> his disciples. Luther himself was not self-righteous towards the poor,
> quite the contrary. He, although a ward of nobility, denounced their
> callousness towards peasants. And, by golly, he never minced words!
> (Kein frohlicher Furz kommt aus einem verzagten Arsch! = No happy fart
> escapes a timid ars!). The German welfare state did not arise from any
> catholic leanings, but from hard-headed protestants under Bismarck's
> leadership. I think you did set up a bit of a straw man there. Cheers,
> Val Geist
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> From: "G. Reinhart-Waller" <waluk at earthlink.net
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> > Show me a full-blooded Lutheran who is open armed and I'll show you a
> > half-breed.
> > Gerry Reinhart-Waller
> > Buck, Ross wrote:
> >>I have known many counterexamples to that stereotype...
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> >>>>BTW I think that the root difference between liberals and
> >>is that liberals tent to respond to the less fortunate with
> >>sympathy/pity and conservatives respond to them with contempt/scorn.>>
> >>Could be the religious card which determines how people respond to those
> >>less fortunate....Catholics like to hug and Lutherans stand with arms
> >>Gerry Reinhart-Waller
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