[Paleopsych] health care
Steve Hovland
shovland at mindspring.com
Sun May 29 14:15:30 UTC 2005
No, but all of you will be healthier
with some kind of filter.
The PUR filters that fit on the faucet
are about $30.
Steve Hovland
www.stevehovland.net
-----Original Message-----
From: G. Reinhart-Waller [SMTP:waluk at earthlink.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 7:01 PM
To: The new improved paleopsych list
Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] health care
Without funding for a filtering system, our pets suffer. Will they die
because I cannot spoil them? :-D
Gerry
Steve Hovland wrote:
>Most of the time the bowl shared by our
>animals is filled with filtered water.
>
>Spoiled brats :-)
>
>Steve Hovland
>www.stevehovland.net
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: G. Reinhart-Waller [SMTP:waluk at earthlink.net]
>Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:17 AM
>To: The new improved paleopsych list
>Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] health care
>
>Medical costs without insurance become prohibitive for someone who has
>no formal job and works as an Independent Scholar. Your suggestions are
>right on target. Should filtered water also be used for pets?
>
>Gerry Reinhart-Waller
>
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>
>Steve Hovland wrote:
>
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>>These days the most important health care is
>>what you do for yourself.
>>
>>Drinking filtered water, not drinking very much
>>alcohol, eating good food, and getting the right
>>amount of exercise are the core.
>>
>>The things you can do to keep from getting
>>old too fast are also the things that keep you
>>healthy.
>>
>>"The Anti-Aging Solution" by Giampapa, Pero,
>>and Zimmerman is an excellent starting point.
>>
>>Steve Hovland
>>www.stevehovland.net
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: JV Kohl [SMTP:jvkohl at bellsouth.net]
>>Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:21 PM
>>To: The new improved paleopsych list
>>Subject: Re: [Paleopsych] health care
>>
>>http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/16/medical_costs.htm
>>
>>"About half of all bankruptcies in 2001 were the result of medical
>>problems and, surprisingly, most of those (more than three-quarters) who
>>went bankrupt were covered by health insurance at the start of the illness."
>>
>>"On average, out-of-pocket medical costs reached $13,460 for those with
>>private insurance and $10,893 for those with no insurance. Ironically,
>>those with the highest costs, on average about $18,000, were people who
>>initially had private health insurance but lost it after becoming ill."
>>
>>Even those who don't go bankrupt tend to lose whatever savings they
>>have. I can't imagine much worse than seeing everything I've worked for
>>my entire life be spent on medical costs--and in many cases that's what
>>happens.
>>
>>I've worked in the medical laboratory for many years and have seen test
>>costs escalate far beyond most people's ability to pay. A co-worker
>>recently was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma and has estimated she
>>will be out of pocket more than $15,000 by the time she finishes
>>chemotherapy. One of the worst things about this is that we work at a
>>hospital, and have a group policy through Blue Cross/Blue Shield. Even
>>though she has seen only participating providers, the number of charges
>>not covered is enlightening. Most of us would be better off being
>>illegal immigrants, who get their medical care for free. About 4
>>non-English speaking patients with no insurance deliver babies here (in
>>Northern Georgia) compared to each non-Hispanic White. Cancer and
>>disability supplements with set payments are expensive jokes, that will
>>only stay the bankruptcy for a short time..
>>
>>Meanwhile, the Veteran's administration (the last place anyone wants to
>>go for medical treatment) no longer accepts honorably discharged
>>Veterans into their program, unless the Vet is earning less than $18,000
>>per year. Until two years ago, the program was open to all Vets. Now
>>that there will be more injured vets coming home, I'd need to be half
>>dead and competely broke before seeking help from the Veterans
>>administration.
>>
>>I wish you all good health, you need it.
>>
>>Jim Kohl
>>
>>
>>Euterpel66 at aol.com wrote:
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>>>In a message dated 5/26/2005 11:01:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>shovland at mindspring.com writes:
>>>
>>> --Only if you actually call it "health care". But not
>>> when you call it "socialist tyranny". It's all in the
>>> framing : )
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>I imagine that you are one of the lucky ones whose employer provides
>>>yours. Mine costs me $468 a month, one third of my monthly income. My
>>>daughter has no healthcare insurance at all.
>>>
>>>Lorraine Rice
>>>
>>>Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
>>>---Andre Gide
>>>
>>>http://hometown.aol.com/euterpel66/myhomepage/poetry.html
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