[Paleopsych] psychopathic leaders

Steve Hovland shovland at mindspring.com
Mon Nov 28 03:02:20 UTC 2005

Psychopaths in business may be weeded
out, but not always before they do a
lot of damage- witness the busines
scandals of recent years.

And I think that in the last 10-15
years the general management style
of corporations has become more
psychopathic- lean and mean, with
an emphasis on mean.


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An ongoing thread in this group, psychopathic leaders. I have long
believed such psychopaths more attracted to politics (esp. the left)
than business where they are more likely to be weeded out. Anyway, a
local story about a new book:


Historians delve into Mao's evil

*By Dennis Lythgoe <http://deseretnews.com/dn/staff/card/1,1228,95,00.html>*
Deseret Morning News
Although it is doubtful that most Chinese citizens will ever learn about
it, Mao Tse Tung may have been even more vicious than Adolf Hitler and
Joseph Stalin in his determination to kill his own people. From the time
he conquered China in 1949, Mao caused the deaths of more than 70
million Chinese in peacetime.
Lisa Weiss
So claim two historians, Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, who have published
a magnum opus, "Mao: The Unknown Story."
During a conference call from California, the authors expressed pride in
finishing what they are not shy to call the definitive work on Mao's life.
Chang is a native of China, having been a Red Guard briefly at the age
of 14, and then he was a peasant, a "barefoot doctor," a steelworker and
an electrician before becoming a university lecturer. Her previous book,
a more personal one about life under Mao, is called "Wild Swans."
Halliday, a Russian historian formerly on the faculty of King's College,
University of London, has written or edited several books, including a
biography of filmmaker Douglas Sirk.
Chang and Halliday are married, and their talents complement each other.
She dealt with all the Chinese sources, while Halliday speaks six
languages and is fluent in Russian. So "95 percent" of what he
contributed to the book came from Russian sources.
Mao was "worse than Stalin two ways," Halliday said. "Whereas Stalin
used elites to torment or torture people in secret, Mao pushed torture
into the public domain to terrorize the whole population. So most people
saw his atrocities. He got the larger part of the population to
participate in the torture. Mao brutalized the society more than Stalin.
He also threatened people's private lives — with respect to sex and
information, especially — more than Stalin did. In terms of fear and
horror, life for the Chinese was more horrific than for Russians under
Lisa Weiss
Jon Halliday and Jung Chang are authors of "Mao: The Unknown Story."
In addition, Chang asserts that "Mao destroyed more culture in China
than Stalin did in Russia. Mao criticized Stalin for allowing the
classics to be read. Books were burned in China on a large scale. I grew
up in China and we had virtually nothing to read. The only thing we
could read were the quotations of Chairman Mao."
Halliday said that it was clear early on that Mao had ambitions to lead
the entire world. "Most people don't know the extent to which Mao
destroyed the visible signs of Chinese culture — the walls, the city
gates and numerous monuments — so that the cities look completely
different. Mao wanted to destroy everything that was old. In doing so,
he cut modern China off from its past. He visually brutalized the
landscape of China."
Chang added that "in the so-called 'leap forward,' Mao bought nuclear
technology from Russia and Eastern Europe at the expense of the
starvation and overwork of his own people. He imported huge industrial
products and used food to purchase it, leaving his people to die. He
wanted China to be a military superpower so he could himself dominate
the world."
And how does the current Chinese regime deal with Mao's considerable
legacy? In Chang's view, current Chinese leaders "choose to perpetuate
the myth of Mao, in part to enforce their own legitimacy. Chinese
leaders have made it an offense to criticize Mao. The Chinese banned my
first book, and they are banning this one as well. People may only read
things praising Mao. The generation growing up today have no idea what
Mao was like."
Chang is now immersed in the translation of "Mao" into Chinese. It will
be published next year by a Taiwan publisher. "Many people in China have
heard about this book," said Chang, "and some will find ways to read it.
As the truth about Mao trickles into China, pressure will build to
reject Mao and his legacies, many of which still dominate the country."
Although Mao was never known for charismatic leadership, he may not have
needed it. Halliday said: "He never had to run for election or consult
with the people. When he came to power, there was no uprising. Mao had
the skills to operate in a room with a few people who would turn out the
vote. He hardly ever appeared in public. Most people never heard his voice."
On the other hand, Mao was also haunted by fear, causing him to build an
enormous security network, including numerous guards, underground
tunnels and bomb-proof shelters. Halliday said: "He was a fanatic — he
knew that there were people who wanted to kill him."
It is essentially unknown in the West that Mao wrote poetry, "very good
poetry," in Chang's opinion, "until he took power, then the quality went
downhill. He lost his flair. But he was educated in the Chinese
tradition, in which poetry played an important role."
That doesn't mean Mao would have become a great thinker had he not
chosen government, Halliday said. "When you examine his statements
philosophically, they were pretty empty. If you ask people to provide
one good idea Mao had, most would have a hard time coming up with anything."
While one of Mao's most important means of control was the use of
torture, Chang said, "He depended on terror and torture. He gave
instructions about how to apply torture and when to stop it. He said if
you stop it too early, it defeats its purposes. But it you apply it too
late, the subject might be dead. Mao was a torture /artist/."
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