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<DIV>Paul--these are very interesting comments. </DIV>
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<DIV>You're right that putting ideas in clear pictures helps us communicate and critique them--helps us see what they really mean. You're right that it helps us test them to see if what they mean holds up to scrutiny. I'm pushing for this form of pictorial representation--from still images to flash animation-- as a device with which to demystify the specialized languages of science. I'd like to see animation used as a device to augment journal articles.</DIV>
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<DIV>Re: "<FONT size=2>It is clear that an effective learning system needs to exercise more resources to the learning itself than it does<BR>to the "crystallized" stimulus-memory-response patterns which it learns.</FONT>" This is a fascinating idea.</DIV>
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<DIV>What are the elements of the learning system, as opposed to the final memory (or the final process) the learning system leaves? One element of learning in bacteria, beehives, human societies, and even human brains is exploration--the dedication of a part of the crowd and its resources to doing things that may seem purposeless and self-indulgent--like sightseeing, wandering, going off into the wastelands to see what lies beyond, following wild--or solid--hunches, following other insane impulses, playing, posturing, performing, creating, and entertaining.</DIV>
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<DIV>Explorer bees posture, perform, and entertain in order to campaign--to recruit the interest of the bored and listless, to convert those who've lost their sense of "meaning", to give the masses the sense that the goal they've all been missing is smack dab in the middle of the explorer's new discovery. </DIV>
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<DIV>The dancing explorer bees, by the way, are a case in which Eshel Ben-Jacob's sense of meaning meets the sort of meaning mystics and spiritual leaders talk about. Meaning is a vision that guides us to something we can not see. It's a sense of goal and structure that comes from a conviction that there's a pot of gold just over the horizon, even if it's one that only others in our mob will ever see--our children, their children, or those of us who die and enter an afterlife of permanent reward or punishment.</DIV>
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<DIV>Meaning is a geography-based, resources-based, inner-map-based, and time-based thing. I suspect it's in part hippocampal--belonging to that part of the brain that maps out things. It's also often a group-based thing, a collective sense of conviction, a sense of something-larger than we are. That sense of something larger than we are is an intoxicant...seemingly a hormonal kicker of great power. It is also a way that superorganismic goals often tempt us forward, seducing us to do what may mean death to us but life to the crowd of which we're a part.</DIV>
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<DIV>Groups that have this sort of lofty idealism are likely to do quite well and reward their members handsomely. Those that don't are likely to disappear, swallowed by groups of fervent idealists. That's assuming that the group has thrown its weight behind a goal that's either realistic or that has enough cohesive power to make the group unbeatable even if its ideas are dead wrong.</DIV>
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<DIV>The Native Americans who believed in the Buffalo Dance threw themselves into it with all they had. But the prediction of the Buffalo Dance's founder was way off base. By sacrificing everything you had and dedicating all your energies to buffalo dancing, you couldn't make the white man go away and force the grasslands to come back, teeming with buffalo like the herds of old.</DIV>
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<DIV>European idealists on the path of Manifest Destiny had been organized by their ideals, by their predictions, and by their greed for a far longer time than the poor buffalo dancers, who had just gotten the religion of new meaning recently. The succession of beliefs the Europeans had pursued with fervor since the days of Christianity's first triumph over pagan pluralism in 322 AD had had 1,400 years to organize men, women, tribes, nations, civilizations, science, commerce, and technology. And they'd organized and given new techno-powers to a very substantial horde.</DIV>
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<DIV>The sense of meaning meshed into 1,400 years of history had built an unbeatable army. The big horde swallowed the small. </DIV>
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<DIV>Whoops, dinner is ready. Must run and swallow a relative of a buffalo--Howard</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/23/2004 7:48:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, paul.werbos@verizon.net writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>Good morning folks!<BR><BR>One reason I like Greg's books is that he -- like other good fictions writers -- <BR>"puts it together." There are lots of verbal theories espoused in social<BR>science, especially, which, when translated into a picture... don't translate.<BR>And when ideas are translated into a picture... it tells us something we wouldn't have seen<BR>otherwise. That's a very important part of .. advancing our thought.<BR><BR>But, as with other compelling pieces of fiction, like Ayn Rand or most of the Bible,<BR>we then may move on to ask which parts were real and essential, which were interesting but uncertain,<BR>and which were just props. We don't always know.<BR><BR>The core message that most of our DNA may be involved in a kind of "intelligence" function,<BR>a kind of metagenetic system, is important ... and I think it is inescapable.<BR><BR>My views here are influenced heavily by what I have seen with intelligence in neural network systems where,<BR>for good or ill, I would claim to have tangible scientific knowledge a bit more than others.<BR>(I could elaborate but not this morning.)<BR><BR>It is clear that an effective learning system needs to exercise more resources to the learning itself than it does<BR>to the "crystallized" stimulus-memory-response patterns which it learns. That's a general<BR>sort of reality, and it would apply to genetic systems as well. Certainly there are times when slow learning or adaptation<BR>gets you killed. Thus there is a strong evolutionary advantage to having systems which can adapt better.<BR>Also... on the whole... life today seems to evolve faster than the life of the preCambrian era.<BR>It does indeed seem to have evolved an evolutionary capability. And then the "junk DNA"<BR>fraction provides strong confirmation of what we should have expected. <BR><BR>Good learning abilities do not come cheap. And that's something I could elaborate on later.<BR><BR>But...<BR><BR>What about stockpiling? That's a different question.<BR><BR>I would think of it more as maintaining a kind of sphere of variance... analogous to what people would<BR>do with... extended Kalman filtering or particle filtering or a system called SEDP/TLRN (which is like particle filtering but more<BR>efficient)... well....<BR><BR>There is a problem with stockpiling PIECES of a new state , when the COMBINATION of pieces has never been tested together.<BR><BR>Greg's novels do discuss some of the problems that can occur, actually, in settling down when the rate of deployment of<BR>stockpiled variations rises very suddenly. There is a whole range of plausible systems, ranging from<BR>continuous deployment and testing of new ... phenotypes?.... to what Greg portrays, ultradiscontinuous...<BR><BR><BR>But... I am not an evolutionary theorist, and the clock just came online...<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR> Paul</FONT> <BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>paleopsych mailing list<BR>paleopsych@paleopsych.org<BR>http://lists.paleopsych.org/mailman/listinfo/paleopsych</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10">----------<BR>Howard Bloom<BR>Author of The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History and Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century<BR>Visiting Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University; Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute<BR>www.howardbloom.net<BR>www.bigbangtango.net<BR>Founder: International Paleopsychology Project; founding board member: Epic of Evolution Society; founding board member, The Darwin Project; founder: The Big Bang Tango Media Lab; member: New York Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Psychological Society, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society, International Society for Human Ethology; advisory board member: Youthactivism.org; executive editor -- New Paradigm book series.<BR>For information on The International Paleopsychology Project, see: www.paleopsych.org<BR>for two chapters from <BR>The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History, see www.howardbloom.net/lucifer<BR>For information on Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind from the Big Bang to the 21st Century, see www.howardbloom.net<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>