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Steve,<br>
You asked me to reflect on your hate speech. Fair enough. I feel: <br>
- sadness: You are a talented person who engages in reckless talk
that cheapens dialog. <br>
I am obligated to oppose hate speech. Deontological obligation. Never
again Jewish gas chambers, never again Cambodian killing fields, never
again Saddam's mass executions. Every person is obligated to oppose
hate speech from whatever source. <br>
Buddha said: Thoughts become speech; speech becomes actions,
actions become habit, habit becomes character. Take care therefore for
your thoughts.<br>
So I speak against hate, and in favor of thoughtful and
compassionate dialog. <br>
<br>
About the perfection angle: Read "Radical Son" by Horowitz, where
he discusses that. That notion is also behind the infamous 'politically
correct dialog' that feminists and constructivists championed about 20
years ago. It is also behind the attempts to end poverty, as Johnson's
great failure, the "War on Poverty." It is also behind Stalin's embrace
of Lysenko. The idea is that by changing society we can fundamentally
change people. So there is a substantial body of evidence for that as
an implicit idea, perhaps not espoused but more a theory-in-action. <br>
<br>
Steve Hovland wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">As a card carrying liberal, I do not think that
people can be perfected if we have the right
kind of society. I have no idea where you
get this formulation.
Steve Hovland
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.stevehovland.net">www.stevehovland.net</a>
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From: Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D. [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:SMTP:ljohnson@solution-consulting.com">SMTP:ljohnson@solution-consulting.com</a>]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:08 PM
To: Alice Andrews; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:paleopsych@paleopsych.org">paleopsych@paleopsych.org</a>
Subject: [Paleopsych] Re: An Evolutionary Mind...
Alice,
Wonderful! I am glad for you. It is always worthwhile to share something
you clearly worked hard on. I also read the Dembski review in the same
issue, and had fun with that.
You said, The feminist academic psychologist also asked me if it was
not dangerous to our students to teach that "motherhood is innate and
that the only way to be happy is to be a mother."
You have identified the problem I have with feminists, namely that
they ignore data that contradicts their theory, and they believe that
only ideas that support their theory should be taught.
At another level, you have identified a classic difference between
modern conservatism and modern liberalism. The conservative believes
that people cannot be perfected by society, the liberal believes that,
given the right society, people can be perfected. Every contrary example
is explained away.
And I liked your description of your reaction to the dutch treat
date where the man wanted to kiss you, even though you were raised not
to have just that reaction. Sounds innate! So I think your article was a
thought-provoking one and I hope it is widely read. I will forward it to
the paleo list and encourage people to look it up.
Lynn
Alice Andrews wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Lynn,
remember that piece you read some of....re me and the economist,
etc. "An Evolutionary Mind,"?...well it's a lot longer (i'm afraid)
but published!
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.metanexus.net/metanexus_online/index.asp">http://www.metanexus.net/metanexus_online/index.asp</a>
Thanks again for your encouraging words...they definitely inspired me
to continue on writing!
All best!
Alice
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