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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Lynn,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the message. I did not cc my
earlier message to Lipton. I have since listened to a radio interview
and I am a bit disappointed. It sounded a touch too simplistic and the
politics a bit naive, which did not appear so in his writings. He is trying to
sell his book and pulling out all the stops. I wished for a bit more
disinterested scholarship and a touch less self-hero worship. However, he does
point out crucially important matter. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Best regards, Val Geist</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=ljohnson@solution-consulting.com
href="mailto:ljohnson@solution-consulting.com">Lynn D. Johnson, Ph.D.</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=paleopsych@paleopsych.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 22, 2005 3:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Paleopsych] Re:
Paleopsych</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Val, this is a fascinating contribution. Did you cc it to
Lipton himself? I read the book a few months back and found it stimulating,
but I was out of my depth, so I appreciate your adding such background.
The story about Goldschmidt's books being removed was particularly disturbing
but all too familiar. <BR>Lynn Johnson<BR><BR>Val Geist wrote:<BR>
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size=3>Dear Howard,</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>Steve in a recent posting pointed to Dr. Bruce Lipton’s work and book
on the <I>Biology of Belie</I>f. And Stephen is right in judging this an
important development. I have not read the book, but opened up Lipton’s
website, read an essay and heard an interview, and I think I understand what
Lipton is all about. Three cheers for his emerging – however, I found
absolutely nothing new in principle, only in particular. He is in a line of
brilliant “epigenetisits” to emerge, and he has apparently gotten much the
same treatment eminent epigenticists before him have received. And that is
what I want to deal with first. </FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>I was disappointed looking into his list of readings that none of
these eminent men were cited be they Richard Goldschmidt, C. H. Waddington
(who coined the word epigenetics over half a century ago) or more recently
Soren Lovtrup. All challenged the conventional wisdom that heredity is
deterministic, all challenged the conventional Neo-Darwinian wisdom – most
shamelessly championed currently by Richard Dawkins - and all suffered
severe rejection by Evolution’s elite, none more than Richard Goldschmidt
(1942). <SPAN> </SPAN>When I looked for that book, having heard all
along how terribly mistaken Goldschmidt was, I could not find it in my
universities library. I discovered that his books had been systematically
removed. That this should happen to one of the centuries truly great
cytogeneticists, was puzzling. At that time I suddenly ran into a fresh
edition of Goldschmidt’s book, reprinted at the behest of Stephen J. Gould.
It is highly instructive to read from his pen just how the great Richard
Goldschmidt was suddenly shunned. It boils down to three young turks going
after him and destroying him: Ernst Mayr, George Gaylord Simpson and
Bernhard Rensch. The means of destruction was ridicule using phrases out of
context. There was little attention paid to the possibility that a great
mind using his enormously rich experience and background at the end of a
long life and prolific publication record was struggling trying to tell us
something that he considers vitally important, but which clashes with
conventional wisdom. To expedite matters: Goldschmidt’s denigration robbed
all but a few of us of the idea of flexible gene expression controlled by
environment as fundamental to understanding speciation and thus evolution.
And without that, there is no way that flexible environmentally controlled
gene expression could enter into other fields – such as medicine!
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size=3>Next in line to be denigrated was the great embryologist, scholar of
evolution and during WWII father of operations research on behalf of the
British defense establishment C. H. Waddington. That’s the father of
Epigenetics. Note the title of one of his books: 1957 <I>The Strategy of the
Genes</I>. If my memory serves me right, he was haughty and did not mince
words and was openly contemptuous of Neo-Darwinism where Goldschmidt tried
to be polite.<SPAN> </SPAN>When during a conversation with Enst
Mayr<SPAN> </SPAN>I mentioned Waddington, Mayr became irritated, in
fact noticeably so and dismissed Waddington as someone who would not fit in.
That is remarkable as Mayr cites Waddington repeatedly in his own magnum
opus, but in a remarkably limited way. The huge irony is that Mayr then
writes in one of his last books on the Great Synthesis that, tragically, the
embryologists have been left out of this great evolutionary synthesis.
Having read Waddington, Ernst Mayr, a mind not to be trifled with – but also
Dawkins and Stephen J. Gould could not see what Waddington saw, namely that
phenotype plasticity was profoundly important to explain much of evolution
that neo-Darwinism did not. I am totally puzzled by that conceptual
blindness.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=3>Next in line is the great Swedish
epigeneticist Soren Lovtrup. He wrote 1974 <I>Epigenetics: A Treatise on
Theoretical Biology</I> and <I>The Phylogeny of Vertebrata</I>(1977), and<B>
</B><I><SPAN>Darwinism: The Refutation of a Myth</SPAN></I><B>,
</B></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(Sören Lövtrup, Soren Lovtrup)
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>1987 Croom Helm<BR>ISBN
0-7099-4153-6, 469 pages. He is a vociferous, but highly substantive
opponent of Neo-Darwinism, and it totally ignored! I had the pleasure of
meeting him a number of times and spending together nearly a fortnight in
<ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><ST1:PLACE>South Africa</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>
and
<ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><ST1:PLACE>Botswana</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>’s
Okavango Delta. He has given up trying to communicate with the older
generation, pinning his hope on the younger – which is also ignoring his
excellent scholarship – see Bruce Lipton! Unfortunately, Lovtrup is not the
best communicator, as well as being a very angry old man. However, taking
time and effort to read him is rewarding. </FONT></P>
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size=3>Lipton is a re-discoverer of epigenetics, as was
<ST1:PLACE>I.</ST1:PLACE> He is dead on, but his discoveries are in
principle not new and it’s a pity he does not integrate his discoveries with
earlier findings, strengthening his case and given due credit where credit
is due. As I age I see again and again the same wheels being reinvented
under different names - and Lipton is a case in point. I was delighted to
hear that he in the are of health identified some of the same processes that
I did and reported on in my 1978 <I>Life Strategies</I>.. book. After all
the subtitle of that book is: <I>Towards a biological theory of health</I>.
Independent re-discovery greatly strengthens the case for epigenetics, as
this concept is played out with different facts. And I am delighted that
Lipton pulled this concept into the area of health. In short: bring
epigenetics into our understanding of Paleopsychology and quality of
life.</FONT></P></DIV>
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<A title=paul.werbos@verizon.net
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Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:51 PM</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-stretch: normal; font-size-adjust: none"><B>Subject:</B>
[Paleopsych] Paul--is this yours?</DIV>
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<DIV>I ran across the following today while doing research for a
national radio show--Coast to Coast--I'm about to do in 70 minutes (2am to
5am EST the night of 5/21 and morning of 5/22). It's exciting and
sounds like the space-borne solar array you were talking about in an email
several days ago.</DIV>
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<DIV>Is it one of the projects you've helped along? Howard</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Modules of the
<B>USC</B> School of Engineering's Information Sciences Institute (ISI)
proposed half-mile-long<B> Space Solar Power System satellite self
assemble</B> with what the researchers call "hormonal" software,.funded
<SPAN> </SPAN>by a consortium including NASA, the NSF, and the
Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI)</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 family="SANSSERIF"
ptsize="10">----------<BR>Howard Bloom<BR>Author of The Lucifer Principle:
A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History and Global Brain: The
Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century<BR>Visiting
Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University; Core Faculty
Member, The Graduate Institute<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.howardbloom.net">www.howardbloom.net</A><BR><A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.bigbangtango.net">www.bigbangtango.net</A><BR>Founder:
International Paleopsychology Project; founding board member: Epic of
Evolution Society; founding board member, The Darwin Project; founder: The
Big Bang Tango Media Lab; member: New York Academy of Sciences, American
Association for the Advancement of Science, American Psychological
Society, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution
Society, International Society for Human Ethology; advisory board member:
Youthactivism.org; executive editor -- New Paradigm book series.<BR>For
information on The International Paleopsychology Project, see: <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.paleopsych.org">www.paleopsych.org</A><BR>for two
chapters from <BR>The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the
Forces of History, see <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.howardbloom.net/lucifer">www.howardbloom.net/lucifer</A><BR>For
information on Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind from the Big Bang
to the 21st Century, see <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="http://www.howardbloom.net">www.howardbloom.net</A><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
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