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<DIV>Eshel--It's been much too long since we've communicated and I've missed
you.</DIV>
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<DIV>Have I introduced you to Pavel Kurakin, from the Keldysh Institute of
Applied Mathematics of the Russian Academy of Science in Moscow? Thanks to
Pavel I gave a presentation at the international conference Quantum Informatics
2005 in Moscow a month ago.</DIV>
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<DIV>That presentation stressed the fact that no quantum particle is an
island. All particles in the real world are part of mobs. So
understanding mob behavior is critical to physics. My example of a mob in
motion was derived from your work on bacterial colonies and credited you
heavily.</DIV>
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<DIV>The dialog below also owes a great deal to you--specifically to the
questions you tossed me on information way back when.</DIV>
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<DIV>And as I continue the discussion, which I'll do below, you'll become even
more a part of it. Howard</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/23/2005 9:18:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kurakin1970@yandex.ru writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>hb: Time
is a communication of past to future via the interpretive process we
call <BR>the present. <BR><BR>pavel kurakin: fantastic formulation. it could
seem trivial but one point: "communication" means flow in both sides.
Triviality turns out to be extreme innovation. this is what i call "hidden
time" and what you call "mob emotions". I would add "plans".</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>hb: Rich, rich thought-food, Pavel. </DIV>
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<DIV>My first intuition is that the communication called time is
one-way But thinking through your inner time hypothesis and pondering the
link to the future that the word "plans" involves, you may be right. The
inner-time hypothesis is about two-way communication in which the present
signals to a semblance of the future and moves according to the feedback it gets
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<DIV>A plan, a sense of a future objective, plays a major role in Eshel
Ben-Jacob's interpretation of bacterial colonies as creative webs. I also
suspect a goal plays a role in the rules by which the present translates the
past into future.</DIV>
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<DIV>Which brings us back to teleonomy. Teleonomy is biologist Ernst
Mayr's way of smuggling a whiff of teleology back into legitimate science.
Do you know about teleology and teleonomy? </DIV>
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<DIV>Here's a for more relevant question. If the present is the process
that translates the past into the future, what rules does it use? And do
those rules change as the complexity of the present and of the future
grow? Howard</DIV>
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PTSIZE="10">----------<BR>Howard Bloom<BR>Author of The Lucifer Principle: A
Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History and Global Brain: The Evolution
of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st Century<BR>Recent Visiting
Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University; Core Faculty
Member, The Graduate
Institute<BR>www.howardbloom.net<BR>www.bigbangtango.net<BR>Founder:
International Paleopsychology Project; founding board member: Epic of Evolution
Society; founding board member, The Darwin Project; founder: The Big Bang Tango
Media Lab; member: New York Academy of Sciences, American Association for the
Advancement of Science, American Psychological Society, Academy of Political
Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society, International Society for Human
Ethology; advisory board member: Institute for Accelerating Change ; executive
editor -- New Paradigm book series.<BR>For information on The International
Paleopsychology Project, see: www.paleopsych.org<BR>for two chapters from
<BR>The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of History,
see www.howardbloom.net/lucifer<BR>For information on Global Brain: The
Evolution of Mass Mind from the Big Bang to the 21st Century, see
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