[extropy-chat] Guns

[Mike Lorrey]

--- Dirk Bruere <dirk at neopax.com> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey at yahoo.com>
> >
> > --- Dirk Bruere <dirk at neopax.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The faith I am referring to is the *belief* that society should
> > > have no say in the legitimacy of your position.
> >
> > Ah, well, on that, society does have a say, and more than 3/4 of
> the US
> > population supports an individual right to keep and bear arms. 39
> > states have laws guaranteeing a right-to-carry-concealed, most of
> which
> > were passed in the last decade, a decade in which the US has seen
> crime
> > drop by half, a phenomenon seen in no other industrialized nation,
> > where no other industrialized nation has as gun laws as free as
> ours.
> > Society has spoken, in support of my position.
> 
> But I thought you believed in 'inalienable' rights?
> Or is gun ownership not one of them?

I don't believe, I know. That I know that I have inalienable rights
such as the keeping and bearing of arms (any arms, not just guns) is a
distinctly different issue as to whether any particular society thinks
so as well. It is fortunate that I live in a society where a
supermajority posesses similar knowledge, for that means I do not have
to either move somewhere else, or work very hard to secure my liberties
against the slave mentality of a serf society such as you do. In my
society, we have constitutional barriers against modern ignorance
corrupting our natural rights, barriers which serve to protect those
rights in times when public opinion sways and flags, such as the
1968-86 period.

It is quite evident that certain serf societies on the european
continent and elsewhere still believe they have no right to defend
their liberties yet still beleive they are are free. They believed this
before WWII as well, and look where that got you.

We saw a similar phenomenon with the slavery period here in the US,
where house slaves saw no reason for the field slaves to yearn for
liberty in the north, that privilege was available to those who
sufficiently pleased the masters and those that did not deserved to
work the fields.

=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
                                       - Gen. John Stark
"Fascists are objectively pro-pacifist..."
                                       - Mike Lorrey
Do not label me, I am an ism of one...
Sado-Mikeyism: http://mikeysoft.zblogger.com

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