[extropy-chat] Real Extropians don't drive SUVs

Brian Lee brian_a_lee at hotmail.com
Wed Aug 18 19:56:03 UTC 2004

Actually, Volvo makes a raised version (XC70) that does offer the clearance 
of an SUV and they function very well in off-road conditions.

Additionally, I made it through the winters of Minnesota in a non-AWD 
station wagon.

The amount of off-road driving done by typical SUV owners is negligible in 
the comparison, although it seems that you do a lot of off-roading in yours.


>From: David Lubkin <extropy at unreasonable.com>
>To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] Real Extropians don't drive SUVs
>Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:15:59 -0400
>Brian Lee wrote:
>>All of the arguments except towing capacity apply equally to a volvo or 
>>bmw awd wagan as to an SUV.
>An AWD wagon will function as well as a 4WD vehicle under ordinary Atlanta 
>city conditions. However, it lacks the 4L mode of a true 4WD. The Volvo and 
>BMW also lack the other off-road features of a decent 4x4, such as ground 
>clearance and underbody plating.
>A sizable chunk of my life (and, I believe, of Mike's) has been spent 
>living or traveling in circumstances where a 4x4 is preferable or 
>Also, Consumer Reports does not consider the Volvo or BMW AWD wagons to be 
>as reliable as the 4Runner.
>-- David Lubkin.
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