[extropy-chat] Cool stuff for Newtonmas

Fri Dec 31 18:11:59 UTC 2004

Ah, then it must be an electroluminescent lamp being used. These are
not collapsible, as the 'sheet' is either aluminum foil or printed
polymer. Folding, crinkling, this 'sheet' would violate the capacitor
structure of the print and short it out.

I have been wondering if it might be possible to make some sort of EM
field in the shape of a blade that could act as a plasma bottle. IMHO
this would be a more true light saber anyways...

--- Kevin Freels <cmcmortgage at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> True, but holding and swinging one of these around is an entirely
> different
> experience from the collapsing cone toys. This is more of a display
> item you
> would take down and hand  to someone on occasion.
> I was thinking of buying an extra one and taking it apart to see if I
> could
> somehow make it work right. I have read that the blade is simply a
> white
> sheet covered in phosphoresent ink that glows when a current is
> applied.
> There is a plastic tube surrounding this, then another protective
> tube
> outside that. It may be possible to adapt this to the collapsing cone
> design
> of the toys and make a truly spectacular entrance to a Halloween
> party next
> year! lol
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Adrian Tymes" <wingcat at pacbell.net>
> To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [extropy-chat] Cool stuff for Newtonmas
> 
> 
> > One of the cool things about the light sabers was that
> > you didn't have to store the blade, just the hilt: the
> > blade went away when not in use.  Not true for these
> > toys.
> >
> > --- Kevin Freels <cmcmortgage at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Has anyone here seen the force FX light sabers? I
> > > know they aren't very
> > > fancy technologically, but they are WAY cool!
> > >
> > > http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/69de/
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Mike Lorrey" <mlorrey at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:50 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [extropy-chat] Cool stuff for Newtonmas
> > >
> > >
> > > > The issue is that while DoD has built megawatt
> > > lasers, they are
> > > > typically not in any way transportable. The THEL
> > > and the ABL are the
> > > > first deployable laser systems, but they are still
> > > huge, with the first
> > > > needing two trailers and the other a 747. While
> > > the THEL is 100kw, and
> > > > is close to deployability, it still requires quite
> > > a bit to set up and
> > > > can only defend one location and a fixed area
> > > around it. The 747 ABL is
> > > > mobile, but is itself a vulnerable target and is
> > > intended for strategic
> > > > anti-missile use.
> > > >
> > > > Making a truly mobile version at 25-50kw capable
> > > of unit-level defense
> > > > against tactical weapons is what is really needed
> > > to defend against
> > > > mortars, katyusha type rockets, artillery, etc..
> > > Installed on a
> > > > fighting vehicle capable of firing in motion,
> > > while moving with its
> > > > unit, is what is really needed. Then we just need
> > > IED/mine sniffer
> > > > bots.
> > > >
> > > > --- spike <spike66 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The way this was written in the popular press is
> > > a little
> > > > > confusing.  See below:
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:  Mike Lorrey
> > > > >  Subject: [extropy-chat] Cool stuff for
> > > Newtonmas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.military.com/soldiertech/0,14632,Soldiertech_Cool121604,,00.html?
> > > > > ESRC=dod.nl
> > > > >
> > > > > COOL TECH THIS WEEK:
> > > > > Ray Gun Plans, Robotic Fish, Powered Exoskeleton
> > > Suits
> > > > >
> > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >   A step closer to working ray guns, RoboPike
> > > and RoboTuna, and
> > > > > Starship Troopers for real -- keep up with the
> > > cutting-edge military
> > > > > tech news from the past week.
> > > > >
> > > > > By Noah Shachtman and Dr. Jeffrey Lewis,
> > > DefenseTech.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Industry Bigs Team Up on Ray Guns
> > > > >
> > > > > ... The modified 747
> > > > > Airborne Laser, after a seemingly-endless
> > > slumber, is beginning to
> > > > > make
> > > > > progress...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Im not sure what that comment means.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ...More importantly, electric-powered lasers are
> > > finally starting to
> > > > > build
> > > > > up the power they need to work as weapons. In a
> > > few months,
> > > > > researchers
> > > > > at the Lawrence Livermore national lab and
> > > elsewhere plan to test a
> > > > > 25
> > > > > kilowatt solid-state laser...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Starting to build up the power to work as
> > > weapons?  Were they joking?
> > > > > The power of the laser is not the recent
> > > breakthru, but rather its
> > > > > the
> > > > > mirror control needed to concentrate that power
> > > at some intermediate
> > > > > distance.  Check out the airborne laser mirror
> > > control.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ...If those trials work out as expected, the
> > > > > Defense Department will then start handing out
> > > grants for a laser
> > > > > with
> > > > > a hundred kilowatts of power -- that's
> > > widely-considered the
> > > > > threshold
> > > > > for ray gun action to begin...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm, again this comment.  Its all about
> > > concentrating the power,
> > > > > not about seeing how much power you can make.
> > > All you need to
> > > > > disable
> > > > > a rocket is to burn a hole in it.  No need to
> > > actually blast it to
> > > > > shards, which would endanger the local enemy
> > > troops unnecessarily.
> > > > > Without the rockets and advanced weaponry, they
> > > are harmless as
> > > > > kittens anyway, so there is no need to slay or
> > > injure them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ... One step forward, one step back. The
> > > Airborne Laser's
> > > > > first flight test in two years was cut short
> > > this week, after some
> > > > > "anomalous instrumentation readings." Space News
> > > says a cabin
> > > > > pressure
> > > > > problem was to blame...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This comment was made many places, but most of
> > > the time they
> > > > > were not careful to explain that it was not a
> > > problem with
> > > > > the laser itself.  The flight crew cabin
> > > pressure is maintained
> > > > > higher than the area where the laser is carried
> > > in case of a leak
> > > > > of the highly toxic materials carried in the
> > > laser.  With
> > > > > higher pressure in the cabin, the fumes would
> > > not get to
> > > > > the flight crew.  Last I heard, it was a faulty
> > > pressure
> > > > > gage, not an actual failure of the pressure
> > > differential
> > > > > equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robo-Crappie, Anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > > ...A Japanese toy company has a whole line
> > > > > of fish, jellyfish, turtles and an ammonite. An
> > > ammonite?...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you purchase one of these toy ammonites, you
> > > may
> > > > > not take it to church, for the Book of
> > > Deuteronomy
> > > > > chapter 23 verse 3 saith:
> > > > >
> > > > > "An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the
> > > > > congregation of the lord, even to their tenth
> > > > > generation shall they not enter into the
> > > congregation
> > > > > of the lord forever...
> > > > >
> > > > > Well which is it, tenth generation, or forever?
> > > I
> > > > > think the latter, for Nehemiah chapter 13 verse
> > > 1 saith:
> > > > >
> > > > > "...the Ammonite and the Moabite should not come
> > > into
> > > > > the congregation of god forever..."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Real-Life Exoskeletons Emerge
> > > > >
> > > > > ... article in tomorrow's New York Times
> > > Magazine,
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
                                      -William Pitt (1759-1806) 
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